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Old Mar 2, 2005, 7:27 AM   #1
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Hello to all!

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"Iintend to buy a wideangle lens for my new camera FZ20 so can anibody suggest something.

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"I'm going to get Phayee FZ10/FZ20 Tube adapter from Ron Jin (China):

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3865219929

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"So I can use 62mm filters. But Raynox DCR-6600PRO Pro-Wideangle lens 0.66X
has 52mm Mounting threads and I should use some adapter ring. Probably this isnot the best solution, vignetting may appear.

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"In fact I don't talk through experience and hope to read your opinions about this.

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Old Mar 2, 2005, 8:28 AM   #2
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Probably the Oly WCON-07 then. Be careful when you order though, make sure it's the 55mm one,not the one with the proprietarybayonet mount.

I have the Raynox DCR 6600,and use it with a FZ-1v2,Pana stock adapter, and a 55-52 step-down ring.It vignettes ever so slightly in theleft-sidecorners, which is quite easy toremove using the clone tool in Photoshop. It might not vignette at all with a 3rd party adapter with 52mm threads but I can't say for certain.

The DCR 6600 buys you the most real estate of all the WA's out there that Iknow of- a 50% increase in the view field,but you can only zoom through the 1X range before the corners blur badly.

Keep in mind,that with all the WA's you need to use an external flash for indoors, as the size of the lenscasts a large, obviousshadow from the adapter - due to their size,on the subect usingjust the on-board flash.


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Old Mar 2, 2005, 9:26 AM   #3
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I'd get the raynox rt5264p tube adapter ($16) and the raynox dcr6600pro ($100). Both 52mm and available at http://bugeyedigital.com/
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Old Mar 2, 2005, 9:29 AM   #4
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I got the WCON 8b. I do not notice any vignetting with my Phayee adapter throughout the entire focal range. It is 62mm, big and relatively heavy, but it does work nice.

Look here:
http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam...WideAngle.html
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Old Mar 3, 2005, 2:54 AM   #5
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10x for the info!

pschooley1 this is what I need, WCON 8b is a good choice for me. How about the other lenses - WCON and Nikon? Can you shаre some experience, please! And when can I find this Nikon?
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Old Mar 3, 2005, 2:58 AM   #6
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10x for the info!

pschooley1 this is what I need, WCON 8b is a good choice for me. How about the other lenses - WCON and Nikon? Can you shаre some experience, please! And when can I find this Nikon?

I mean TCON :-)
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Old Mar 3, 2005, 8:13 AM   #7
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I have a Olympus WCON-08B with a Phaynee adapter ( + thin Hoya Pro UV filter, thx RJ). I have notnoticed any vignetting, but there are a couple of characteristics which I will share (features! in sales talk). The WCON-08B is a massive lens, with a front thread 105mm (if you can afford the filters), when using the built in flash, the lens casts ashadow. A bounce flash would overcome this, or I believe a solution using a piece of diffusing paper and a crocodile clip has already been posted.

The lens size also obstructs the AF focus assist light, this can be overcome by manual focusing, or using torch.A comical AF assist 2million candle power torch post already exists.
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Old Mar 3, 2005, 10:05 AM   #8
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I am just learning the nuances of these lenses myself, I have been focusing my attention on the macro application with the 6t (mainly due to poor weather).

I bought my 6t for about 50$ from http://www.bhphotovideo.com (I think) - they do show up on eBay , but not for significantly less. The other lenses were significantly less from eBay.

There are numerous threads on each subject here, just search the forums. There are numerous tips that I haven't had a chance to try. Here are some I have:

Focus: So far my experience with macro & tele has led me to using manual focus far more. Using auto focus with spot setting to get in range, then fine tuning in manual can help speed things up sometimes.

Lighting: I bought external flashes (Vivitar 283 & 285) off eBay. For macro I have found these more effective than the built-in due to their adjustability. Using external flash is a topic of its own!

Size & Weight: The TCON & WCON I have are big & heavy. This may be more of an issue for some than it was to me. For me the vignetting at various magnifications was the greater issue.

Adapter: I really like my Phayee, I would recommend it to anyone; but it took an exceptionally long time for delivery (1 1/2 months! Rong & I communicated well, and he said this was one of the longest waits he had experienced). Others here with different adapters recommend them equally as well.

Summary: There is objective data on vignetting available at several websites; ultimately there is a subjective choice to be made by none other than yourself. If you duplicate what I bought you will have a great setup, but will it be right for you? If I had the $$ I would go for the Panasonic, but for less than the price of one Pana lens I have a complete system to fumble with and learn!

Some of the sites that helped my decisions:
http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam/
http://www.pbase.com/10kzoomfz/fz10_...nd_information
http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/DMCFZ10/
http://www.ishots.net/fz1-2faq/fz1macros.htm
http://www.pemaraal.com/index.html (Test images links)
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Old Mar 4, 2005, 11:28 AM   #9
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I am a little confused here...trying to make sense of all the numbers.

Posts here list both Oly WCON-07 and WCON-b8. Are they different? In what way? Will both of them fit straight onto the Phayee adaptor? Iemailed Rong Jin about the adaptor and he replied with an offer of the 'original 0.7 x wide-angle lens Olympus WCON-07' for $105 if bought together with the adaptor tube. I assume that means I have to place my order at the same time as I order the Phayee. Is this a good buy? Apart from the possible problems already mentioned here, will this do the job?
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Whoops. Just noticed there is also a 62-55 step-down ring offered on the list. Obviously, if I buy the WCON-07, I will need one of those.
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