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Old Mar 28, 2005, 6:18 PM   #1
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Many times I see pictures that while they look sharp, focused, technically' OK, they just don't look real at all. For instance, this pic I took. I like the picture, but it's just not 'right' to me. Why is that? Anything I should do to make it more 'natural' ? (hopefully resizing for web-viewing won't affect that 'effect' too much). Is it due to being 'focused' throughout? Because my real eyesight is bad? Due to the nature of digital? A little insight as to why and what I could do to get more 'natural' look would be helpful. Thanks.
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Old Mar 28, 2005, 6:48 PM   #2
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i think the cars distract from the natural beauty of the landscape avoid the things that are man made ..i like using the histogram try that it measures the color range of the various pixels in a shot as well as the exposer of light
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I would turn the Sharpness (on the camera) down to normal rather than hard. Other than the cars, I think it's a nice photo..

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I agree with Jeff. Dont use hard sharpening (ever). That's the main "unreal" problem. Resizing may have added even more sharpening. The cars and the parking lot make for a snap shotscenario whether the sharpeness is right or not.
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I think sharpening is part of it, but the depth of field in small sensor cams adds the effect. It tends to make the scene more 2D looking or flat rather than see things in relative depths. 2cents.
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Old Mar 28, 2005, 10:15 PM   #6
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I think sharpening is part of it, but the depth of field in small sensor cams adds the effect. It tends to make the scene more 2D looking or flat rather than see things in relative depths. 2cents.
Ahh. Your explanations makes sense to me. I tend to not like much sharpening, but many posts seem to be oversharp to me so I thought maybe it was just my eyes being 'bad'. so I thought I'd try the 'hard sharp' option. Lesson learned. I'm thinking maybe all the PP added to the effect also. Better to get the settings correct when taking the original pic I suspect.

If I had more time I'd have worked the cars/parking lot out of the picture but I was with 3 other guys who I think were more interested in getting back to the casinos. It was a case of getting out, snapping a picture or two and moving on. Heck, one of the other pics I took I literally took through the car window on the move. Other than the area close to the car, it came out pretty well after PP ! I'd have spent a day there if it had been just me (Red Rock Canyon 10 miles out of Las Vegas.) Lots of trails, hiking, climbing etcetera. No real restrictions like in many 'parks'.

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if you are talking about the choppyness on the lines like the car windows... you shouldn't use mircosoft software to resize photo's... for resising and cropping try photofiltre..... it will also let you adjust contrast and brightness and the such.. free software and you might even like it

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if you are talking about the choppyness on the lines like the car windows... you shouldn't use mircosoft software to resize photo's... for resising and cropping try photofiltre..... it will also let you adjust contrast and brightness and the such.. free software and you might even like it

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No, I figured I'd get some minor viewing anomalies as I did just a quick pixel reduction resize in PSP. But thanks for the input. At one time I actaully knew a lot on PhotoShop, but my old computer couldn't handle it very well after PS4 (yeah, that's right, FOUR !) and I got tired of trying to keep up with all of it since it is just a hobby for me. I'd rather 'play' and it was becoming 'work' (plus costly!.) I still like to manipulate photos from time to time, but that commodity (time) has become much more precious since I've turned 50 ! And I've found Jasc's PSP to 'play' better for me now. I do need to start looking at plug-ins again though. Probably would save me some frustrations and time.


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If I had more time I'd have worked the cars/parking lot out of the picture but I was with 3 other guys who I think were more interested in getting back to the casinos. It was a case of getting out, snapping a picture or two and moving on. Heck, one of the other pics I took I literally took through the car window on the move. Other than the area close to the car, it came out pretty well after PP ! I'd have spent a day there if it had been just me (Red Rock Canyon 10 miles out of Las Vegas.) Lots of trails, hiking, climbing etcetera. No real restrictions like in many 'parks'.

Thanks to all for comments.
Your picture actually reminds me of a post card or one of those slides that you get in the tourist trap shops. I've been to Las Vegas many times.. Probably driven past or through Red Rock Canyon just as many but never stopped to look at it.. I have a crap load of pictures from a moving car taken with my olympus OM1 in Nevada, Arizona, and Colorado.. You know what that amounts to?? A bunch of pictures of blurry rocks and leaning trees (focal plane shutter).. I could understand the blurry rocks but could never put my finger on why the trees were leaning. It wasn't until I started playing with my fathers' 60 year old speed graphic (large format press camera) that I understood what was happening.

What's that all have to do with your question?? Absolutely nothing.. Just chatter.

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