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Old Jun 14, 2005, 1:58 PM   #11
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There have been enough comments from past postings on this forum expressing reluctance toward altering the original image whether imprinted on film or digital memory card.

I thought it would be interesting to get a good cross-section of opinions on the subject of post-processing.


None at all, or is the sky the limit? How much is too much?

Here is your chance to sound off on the subject!!!!!

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I have been involved with photography for 58 years and had a dark room for 10. The dark room or modern day PP is an integral part of the photographic process. The combination has always been the acceptable practice for it the final product, the picture that tells the story. You can get very creative in a dark room; I use to change the perspective of shots by tilting the enlarger so the print was created at a 30-degree angle.. Think of PP as part of the creative printing process anything goes. I would say that 99% of my pictures have PP adjustments. People know what they like if you go over the top they may give you thumbs down. The second picture below took onehour to make; the planned first shot made it possible. Most people loved the second shot some people could not stand it.



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Old Jun 14, 2005, 3:09 PM   #12
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I generally just crop a little, occaisionally I use the "auto correct" function to just correct minor lighting issues. But I do tend to beleive the photo should be good enough to stand by itself - unless you really want to tweak it to get special effects.

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People know what they like if you go over the top they may give you thumbs down.
Which I would do here, for instance. Cloning out the buildings on the left is quite acceptable. Darkening the sky is somewhat acceptable although not particularly advantageous, IMO. Removing the buildings on theright is a no-no since they are reflected in the center building. Now it doesn't look "real". That aint tweaked. That's twucked.
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 5:02 PM   #14
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Old Jun 14, 2005, 6:28 PM   #15
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A tweaker with a purist intent. It all depends. If I can PP and get more details and sharpenss and some color that represents what I saw then I will tweak.

The camera pales in comparison with its own tweaker settings.
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People know what they like if you go over the top they may give you thumbs down.
Which I would do here, for instance. Cloning out the buildings on the left is quite acceptable. Darkening the sky is somewhat acceptable although not particularly advantageous, IMO. Removing the buildings on theright is a no-no since they are reflected in the center building. Now it doesn't look "real". That aint tweaked. That's twucked.
The appreciation of art is subjective and I was making a point with a picture that had a lot of manipulation. BTW, I had this picture up on this and other forums without showing the before. The reviews were 10 to one on the wow side. I do not usually show the before shots, because it is like a magician showing you the how. When I look at someone's work I either like it or not. I do not care how was done.
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Tweaker. One of the things I like about digital photography is that it lets me do "darkroom" work without any exposure to chemicals. Without that option, digital would be much less attractive to me.

When I see ads for printers that proclaim, "print your photos without a computer!" I scratch my head and wonder, "why would anyone want that?" Now I know: because they're purists!
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I like to get it right in the camera in terms of correct exposure and composition, most of my images are left as is, Unless I want to post to the forum then I will use a minimal amount of PP, If I want to print to A4 I will also do some touchup in PP, certainly PP can do much to correct and improve an image I don't have a problem with anyone using extensive PP to get the desired image.
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Tweaker. One of the things I like about digital photography is that it lets me do "darkroom" work without any exposure to chemicals. Without that option, digital would be much less attractive to me.

When I see ads for printers that proclaim, "print your photos without a computer!" I scratch my head and wonder, "why would anyone want that?" Now I know: because they're purists!
They just want pictures. You and people like me want to create an image.
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I don't have anything new to add. I think that Lovelife expressed my POV very well. I only offer these two photos to further illustrate the point. Both photos have been cropped the same and are identical except for some minor PP that I think makes a dramatic difference. I know which photo I prefer, however you may choose the one that appeals to your eye.

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To the purist, I say this, I had only a very limited amount of time at this location. I could not hang around waiting for the perfiect conditions. Nature was only cooperating so much. I feel the PP allowed me to improve the atmospheric conditions to acquire the effect I desired.

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