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Old Aug 1, 2005, 11:29 PM   #1
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Yeah, yeah....I know....I'm thinking of selling my FZ20 and getting a new camera. The FZ30 looks tempting, but I have a chance to buy a new, in box D50 for a VERY VERY good price...I'm wondering if I'm going to have more flaxability with the DSLR.*Right now, one of the bigger concerns is glass...to get anything CLOSE to the lens I have on my FZ20 is gonna cost me another $500 - 600* on the Nikon, no?Any suggestions, advice?
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Old Aug 1, 2005, 11:37 PM   #2
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well consider this...dSLRs will always be better than P&S cameras. the D50 should be an improvement to the FZ20 and the FZ30. about the lens part...

there is no 36-432mm f/2.8 IS lens available that I am aware of...to buy lenses with that quality will take you more like $5000 to get about the same range we're getting with the FZ20:arrow:
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I agree with Max. That is one of the primary reasons the FZ series is so awesome to me.
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Yes, I agree as well. I was using the FZ1 until I needed more resolution for enlargements and with the FZ1 I quicly learned that the sensor resolution is not always a deal breaker. I was going to buy a Canon 30D for about $300 without lens on ebay but I let it go because I found the FZ10 for $250. I found the lens on the FZ cameras to sell by themselves. I would only buy a dSLR if you shot a lot of indoor pictures without flash though because of the extended dynamic range and the lower noise levels as well as high ISO range. Besides that I would just use my FZ10 with an external flash.
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The FZ20 is the camera that plunged me into this new hobby (photography) its a fun and superb camera, I took incredible shots with it, some even got published.

Last year I upgraded to a 20D, this is also an excellent camera, however it left me cold (no love) mainly because the shutter was to noisy for nature photography and in my hands it felt to hefty and large, also once you learn how to use the FZ20 both produce excellent photos, in 8-10s they are basically undistinguishable. Few months ago I sold my 20D and until last week I was looking at the D70-D50 and the new FZ30, my main concern was about tele, I really tot that I would need a hefty and expensive zoom to match the 36-432mm of the FZ20, not so! My new D50 with kit lens and Nikon 70-300G is all I really need, I took 500+ shots already and no dough this combo is much better then anything I got from the excellent FZ20, I really can't see how the new FZ30 can be better.



All these cameras are excellent in my book, however my first pick is the D50



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Forget to say, the 70-300G is about $150 and equivalent to 450mm on D50, its also very light.

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your comparison is very flawed. when I stated that to match our current lens to something similar on dSLRs you needed thousands of dollars it meant matching it as close as possible.

you're talking about a 70-300mm(105-450mm on the D50) f/4-5.6 NON-IS lens. the FZ cameras have an equivalent of an 36-432mm f/2.8 IS lens and THAT is what you would need to strive for if you wanted the same range on a dSLR. here's some rough pricing for Canon gear(with the 20D's 1.6x multiplier):

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM~ $1,255.15

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM~ $1,584.59

Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM ~ $3,884.31

that will take care of 38.4mm-480mm all at f/2.8 and past 70mm with IS as well. look at how much money it takes...
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Max... I thought you were moving to a 20D?
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Sorry I am talking about end result, the photos I get from this combo are nicer then those I got from my FZ20. maybe this is where the larger CCD fits in?

I use to get very good photos with my FZ20, wish I knew how to post some!

Also this was my biggest concern about upgrading 36-432mm 2.8 throughout, I really tot there was no way to get this with DSLR without big$$ (I was wrong) as I am fully satisfied with my new combo, however I will obtain the new FZ30 ASAP. I think its an amazing camera and will be loads of fun, we never know perhaps the D50 will end in the closet? But for now I can say this combo is better then I expected.



By the way I tried the sigma 70-200mm 2.8 (excellent) however not good for my needs, I like light and small more then anything.



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Oops! Yes image stabilisation, well I don't miss it much, I am no pro but I think faster shutter and higher ISO makes up for IS. At least from the photos I get.



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[align=left]Minolta Maxxum 5D with 18-70 + Sigma 70-300. 27-450mm range. In camera stabilization, ISO 100-3200 clean images. ISO makes up for 2.8 and these lens max out at f5.6. DOF control, bulb exposure, WB tuning etc. Cost $1100.
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