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Old Sep 1, 2005, 3:52 PM   #31
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thanks again!

i'm impatiently waiting for Your pics....
What is price of this Panasonic add-ons (wide- and telephoto) in Canada? I'm affraid that it's not so cheap :-(

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Old Sep 1, 2005, 4:09 PM   #32
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I plan on picking up the Wide angle the remote shutter release cable and the External flash. Well maybe on the flash. So far I'm very impressed with the pop up flash. I haven't worked it out in great detail yey but so far so good.
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thanks again!

i'm impatiently waiting for Your pics....
What is price of this Panasonic add-ons (wide- and telephoto) in Canada? I'm affraid that it's not so cheap :-(

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Old Sep 1, 2005, 7:22 PM   #33
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Hi

The wide and tele lenses for the FZ30 are smaller, lighter and cheaper than the ones for the 10/20, I have seen pictures taken with them by a pro and the drop in quality is very minor compared to the prime lens.

The look and feel is very much SLR like, the VF in the middle is a great improvement and it is the first EVF that I have enjoyed using .


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Old Sep 1, 2005, 8:58 PM   #34
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Here is the test shots for the FZ30 I promised ISO set to 80, in camera processing Contrast, Saturation, Sharpness and noise reduction set to high. No post processing. Highest resolution at 100%

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test1.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test2.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test3.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test4.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test5.jpg


http://guitarman.servepics.com/test6.jpg
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Old Sep 1, 2005, 10:34 PM   #35
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White Balance Test

My rec room is one of the worst places to try and get good pics. These pictures of my daughter were taken on a tripod. The 2oD is using the 17-40mm F4L lense at 24mm ISO 400 to give it a bit more light aperature is set at F4 to allow more light.
The FZ30 was at 35mm the widest. F4 aperature and ISO 80 not letting in much light. One pic each camera with the flash and one with out. All these pics are straight out of the camera with no post processing. Both cameras are using Auto white balance. I can get better shots from the 20D by using a different AWB and even better with custom set AWB. I haven't yet played with the FZ30s WB settings but this isn't as big a problem with the FZ30. I realiz non of these shots are very good but as I said my rec room is terrible for a place to take shots.
I will hopefully be taking some real photos this weekend at a local fair. There is an extreme motocross race, A country music concert and a smash up derby contest. Hopefully I will be able to make all these events.

The 20D without flash.



The 20D with flash



The FZ30 without flash



The FZ30 with Flash


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Old Sep 1, 2005, 11:41 PM   #36
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Can you attach the exif data, these images dont show much without the details


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Here is the test shots for the FZ30 I promised ISO set to 80, in camera processing Contrast, Saturation, Sharpness and noise reduction set to high. No post processing. Highest resolution at 100%

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test1.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test2.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test3.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test4.jpg

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test5.jpg


http://guitarman.servepics.com/test6.jpg
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Old Sep 2, 2005, 2:01 AM   #37
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Here is the test shots for the FZ30 I promised ISO set to 80, in camera processing Contrast, Saturation, Sharpness and noise reduction set to high. No post processing. Highest resolution at 100%

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test1.jpg

etc...
I've just started downloading your pictures and noticed an immediate problem. These are not directly from the camera since a) there is no EXIF data, and b) all the pics are 5 or 6MB whereas the camera produces jpg's at between 3.5 and 4MB.

I know you're doing a lot for us with no reward, but I can't get anything from your efforts if the pics are edited.

I appreciate your comments on the speed and handling of the FZ30 (especially white balance, which isn't that good indoors on the FZ10). It's the reduced startup time and faster focusing that has me most interested. I just don't have any use for 8 megapixels, especially if they are all noise.

Lastly, I don't know why you would set contrast, saturation, etc to high. For my FZ10 I found the defaults to be the best, with low for everything being the best (or at least equal to the defaults) when post processing is expected. Did you do any tests?
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Old Sep 2, 2005, 9:02 AM   #38
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Sorry I did probably make a mistake. I shot the pics in TIF and converted to JPG. It doesn't make a difference to quality as compression is compression no matter what stage its done. but for this weekends shots I will shoot in JPG and post some better test shots. I will probably do no more comparisons with the 20D. Hopefully this weekend I will finally get some time to really work out this camera as I have not had more than just an hour or two after work all week.
The reason I push my settings up to the limit is that I find the camera really does a great job of in camera processing. With this camera I have no intention of sitting for hours infront of the computer adjusting each shot like I do with the shots from my 20D. With this configuration the most I have to do is Maybe a bit of curves adjustment and clean up the noise. And the noise does clean up beautifully in just a couple of seconds making the cameras noise problems a non issue.

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Here is the test shots for the FZ30 I promised ISO set to 80, in camera processing Contrast, Saturation, Sharpness and noise reduction set to high. No post processing. Highest resolution at 100%

http://guitarman.servepics.com/test1.jpg

etc...
I've just started downloading your pictures and noticed an immediate problem. These are not directly from the camera since a) there is no EXIF data, and b) all the pics are 5 or 6MB whereas the camera produces jpg's at between 3.5 and 4MB.

I know you're doing a lot for us with no reward, but I can't get anything from your efforts if the pics are edited.

I appreciate your comments on the speed and handling of the FZ30 (especially white balance, which isn't that good indoors on the FZ10). It's the reduced startup time and faster focusing that has me most interested. I just don't have any use for 8 megapixels, especially if they are all noise.

Lastly, I don't know why you would set contrast, saturation, etc to high. For my FZ10 I found the defaults to be the best, with low for everything being the best (or at least equal to the defaults) when post processing is expected. Did you do any tests?
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Old Sep 2, 2005, 2:58 PM   #39
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Nice shots! Thanks Terry :-)

Those photos gave me a little bit of view on abilities of FZ30 and on differences between Canon 20D and FZ30.Generally I'm a canon /analog/ userso I'm very interested in compatible body, but in the future - not near ..
But for now I'm looking for compact camera withgood quality lens and fine sensor. I thoughtthis Panasonic would be near of good choice, but now I'm not sure...
These pics looks like.. ehmmm.. they have not natural colours or something. And I'm very impressed on minimal chromatic aberrations.
I know the FZ30 have a lot of settings, so I'would be very thankful for shots made with minimal presets, maybewith long time at night (at ISO 80) or some details in daylight on full-tele... please?

Sorry for hassle you all.

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Old Sep 2, 2005, 3:32 PM   #40
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No problem. I am in testing mode with this camera anyway and am glad to do it. Actually my plans are to scale down my equipment. I have now gotten rid of most of my DSLR equipment. All I basically have left is my 20D and one L lense and a 50mm 1.8. I picked up the FZ30 and am currently researching or waiting for a second prosumer fixed lens. It has to have noise more undr control be wider or have capabilities to go wider than the FZ30. It doesn't have to be as long though. The Fuji s9000 looks interesting but the lack of IS and lack of the constant 2.8 aperature throughout the focla range will probably deter me from this. When I finally get this second camera the FZ30 will be my backup and for my wifes use. I just don't want to carry around the big L lenses anymore.
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