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Old Sep 20, 2005, 3:03 AM   #1
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Most FZXX users think color and with the current mania over the FZ30, the relevance of B&W is not diminished.

So why is B&W relevant.... its all about the image, the content, the light, the subject(s) the message you are trying to get across.

B&W is STILL highly regarded today for Exhibitions or Salons but more in the monority.

My early roots lie in B&W and I used to shoot motor racing and street candids for magazines, I used TRIX ISO400 and an SLR with a 135mm lens no zoom lense just foot work, I would meter the light and set aperture and shutter speed all I had to do was position myself and focus on the subject .... simple.

These are old scanned images from prints.... the site does not allow direct image viewing.
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The image comes from the Photographer NOT the camera.


Race cars

Austin7
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/AUS7.JPG
A lotus
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/LOTUS.JPG
Bertone
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/LAMBO.JPG

Candids........

Mr Cool
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/MAN1.JPG

Art Gallery
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/LADY.jpg
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/MAN4.JPG

My Neighbour
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/MrsHOLMES.JPG

Street candids
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/GIRL1.JPG
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/GIRL2.JPG

Friends
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/LEILA.JPG
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/SUZY2.JPG
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/SUZY.JPG

Nature
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/GUM_TRUNK.JPG
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~jkaso/FARM.JPG

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Old Sep 20, 2005, 7:37 AM   #2
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John

Mate very well said and thanks for sharing the pictures. Everyone different and the ones that I really like are the gum tree, the old mand and lady. In B&W they just simply work.

The other good thing about B&W is that the noise issue with the small sensors that we digicam users can be used to our advantage as it does at times look like film grain and can just make that shot a wee bit special.

i've seen some FZ10/20 shots on pho.net and the Leica forum that were taken at ISO200 that in colour would not work becuase of the noise but when converted to B&W they were something else - picture perfect.

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The austerity ofB&W is its attraction. Color is so damn busy you oftenmiss the forest for the trees. The angles and shadows become more prominant. The sceneis quieter andobjects reveal themselves at a slower pace. The opportunity for reflection and contemplationis enhanced. I posted an FZ5in-cameraB&W series a couple of weeks ago of boardwalk shotsthataspire todemonstrate this.See http://www.ishots.net/fz5/wildwoodb&w/

As for digital vs film, digital is the clear winner here since I don't have any film.
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HarjTT wrote:

Harj check thid great free PS plugin tool its free

btw I find PS CS2 slow but otherwise good

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Mate very well said and thanks for sharing the pictures. Everyone different and the ones that I really like are the gum tree, the old mand and lady. In B&W they just simply work.

The other good thing about B&W is that the noise issue with the small sensors that we digicam users can be used to our advantage as it does at times look like film grain and can just make that shot a wee bit special.

i've seen some FZ10/20 shots on pho.net and the Leica forum that were taken at ISO200 that in colour would not work becuase of the noise but when converted to B&W they were something else - picture perfect.

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The austerity ofB&W is its attraction. Color is so darn busy you oftenmiss the forest for the trees. The angles and shadows become more prominant. The sceneis quieter andobjects reveal themselves at a slower pace. The opportunity for reflection and contemplationis enhanced. I posted an FZ5in-cameraB&W series a couple of weeks ago of boardwalk shotsthataspire todemonstrate this.See http://www.ishots.net/fz5/wildwoodb&w/

As for digital vs film, digital is the clear winner here since I don't have any film.
Agree with you Fred

This one is great
http://www.ishots.net/fz5/wildwoodb&...edium/0021.jpg

This one is great too

http://www.ishots.net/fz5/wildwoodb&...edium/0020.jpg

I think PP can make digital very close to Film just have to figure it out
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black and white also lends itself better than color to some subjects. old buildings, "seasoned" faces, anything that has "character" is often better shot in B&W. the lack of color lets the viewer focus on the texture and subtle shadings, and can impart a look of age, despair or weariness that is often more appropriate. it's also great, as John mentioned in another thread, for capturing afeeling of dreary isolation, abandonment, or loneliness, and can make shots much more moody and evocative thanthe same photo in color.it's not for everything certainly, and for most work i prefer color, but there are some subjects and moods that are really much better captured in B&W.
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I likethe street candids the most. The look that Girl2 is shooting at you is priceless.
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Here's a little sample I made with Virtual Photographer.

I hope you like it :-)

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So far I've done most of my shooting in color, but I sometimes find that a b&w conversion just works better for a particular subject.

Having said that, I think I'm going to start taking all of my photos in b&w for awhile because such a project may help me focus on composition, line, form and other such matters. It should help me look at the subjects differently. Color is awesome, but sometimes it may be distracting, and, in my case, it may mask other things I should be looking at. Forcing myself to work solely in b&w should, I hope, help me improve all aspects of my photography.
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One of America's most respected photographers, Ansel Adams,did most but not all of his work in Black & White.
In the early days of photography, a camera was considered merly a devise by which one may record a view of reality. Ansel pushed for the acceptance of this craft as an art form in and of itself.
Art is interpretive. We "see" the world in color, therefore,B & W allows us to be more creative and expressive with how we choose to portray a photograph as an art form.
Adams found color unappealing. He preferred the more abstract qualities of black & white, which he felt, emphasized the photographers interpretive vision. If you have ever studdied any of his work, I believe you will understand what the allure of black & white photography is all about !:G:?:?:O
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