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Old Dec 18, 2005, 10:45 AM   #1
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This is my first outdoor series shot in a pyjama.
Target: roof, equipment: FZ5 achromat, div. lenses, no tripod
olympus alife size +7,7diopt., zoom 1*

olympus alife size +7,7diopt., zoom 12*, FZ5 f:8

lens 80mm f:16 +13diopt.

lens 60mm f:16 +17diopt.

reverse lens 35mm f:22 +29diopt.

looks like a short time goblet to me.....
The small apertures of theses lenses are a real advantage - DOF is extremely small otherwise.
But you need 12* to 14* zoom all the time!
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...Ivan, you thought that +4 diopt. is a problem?
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Old Dec 18, 2005, 12:38 PM   #2
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Wonderful shots Sven,

And Thanks a lot for the post.

Bringing small things out so big, always feels like looking into another world. Really fascinating.

>>> ...Ivan, you thought that +4 diopt. is a problem?<<<<

Yes, and I still think so. You see, I didn't plan to go so close and to photograph such tiny little obejcts as ice crystals. Wouldn't you also like to have a deeper dof when you're framing flowers or larger insects - to get them in focus as a whole?

Anyway, your pictures really encourage me to give it another try.

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Old Dec 18, 2005, 2:20 PM   #3
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>>> ...Ivan, you thought that +4 diopt. is a problem?<<<<

Yes, and I still think so. You see, I didn't plan to go so close and to photograph such tiny little obejcts as ice crystals. Wouldn't you also like to have a deeper dof when you're framing flowers or larger insects - to get them in focus as a whole?
ok, you should have started with +2 diopt. = butterfly size.
But DOF is not so bad with our small sensors and F:8.
(please look at your thread again!)

Look at this example, this is an ice macro from today - with more than F:8.
(heliconFocus 3 pictures) more DOF - less fun in this case!

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Old Dec 18, 2005, 9:22 PM   #4
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As a girl I look at these photos (amazing BTW) and I see diamonds, esp the 2nd, third & 4th. I really think you show ice in a way that most have never seen. You might want to shop these around science textbooks, they should definitely use these pics!
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Very interesting Sven ! Like Nancy I also see diamonds, uncut ones! Jim
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thanks Nancy and Jim,
these are gems. Hardness and cut are suboptimal. But there new ones each day!
I saw some scientific shots of snow flakes - real eye catchers! There is rain today - bad luck - I am not in the water drop business.
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These are great shots. It's fascinating how every ice crystal is unique.
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thanks l.hawk,
your new avatar is much better!
You serve the water and the rainbows and I am looking for ice and ....
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