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Old Mar 6, 2006, 1:52 PM   #11
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Hi Francesco,
you are right, there is enough light!
The mirror is small, but very close to the flash.
I can reduce the flash power, the size of the mirror (not necessary), the number of reflectors and the distance to the object.
The reflector can be twisted, to meet the hot spot (distance).
I have tested a white area of 20*30cm with my MCON40 at 1* zoom no dark corners!!

You see the twisted mirror too now.

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Old Mar 6, 2006, 1:57 PM   #12
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And here it is....
The Molf-bouncer light box:


The box is bigger now:
3 mirrors are accompanied by my external flash connector. and the diffusor
The metallic box is an excellent reflector for sunlight too.
I am searching for a small mirror to use it as "dog-litter mirror" too.
--a device to look at untwistable LCDs from above--

so let there be bugs!

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Old Mar 6, 2006, 3:15 PM   #13
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.Here is an example taken with the bouncer.
Camera in portrait orientation, flash illuminating the right side.
Above 2* zoom, below 12* zoom - Mcon40
Is this a giant egg or shrunk lego????





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Old Mar 7, 2006, 3:16 PM   #14
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Facinating stuff. I had no idea how to bounce a flash. The results speak for themselves. Keep up the good work guys!
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Old Mar 7, 2006, 4:13 PM   #15
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Dear Sven

IMO you shouldn't have deleted the solutions pictures.
More than 200 accesses, despite the number of replies.

Many users could be interested by this in the future and find it with the search tool.
Most users will buy an external flash..

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Old Mar 7, 2006, 4:30 PM   #16
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.....I had deleted the solutions ... these are restored now!

I have to follow this advice!

I will not restore this thread, but......

All the missing pictures can be found in these more responsive threads:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...hread=17455021

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...hread=17495839

and the final version will be shown in my 11.11. carnival thread again.

thanks, Sven

..I am not sure, that an external flash is better. At least together with the FZ5!




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Old Mar 7, 2006, 11:36 PM   #17
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It's not boring at all...

I haven't said a thing because I don't own an external flash yet, but still I think it's useful to have this kind of experiences / ideas from others to share. Keep on.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 2:31 AM   #18
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thanks Jose,

but we are not!!! talking about external flashes this time.

All pictures were taken with the internal flash of the FZ5.


cheers Sven






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Old Mar 8, 2006, 2:49 AM   #19
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I actually prefer bouncing. Its softer and doesn't tend to blow out the highlights. CCD's need more light to get a decent shot IMHO, than film. The more light, the less noise. The trick is get the right balance between soft light and enough light for the subject. I bounce when I can but generally find myself using diffused more. Probably due to the short lens to subject distances I deal with.

All the best and interesting thread and shots.

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Old Mar 8, 2006, 3:58 AM   #20
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nzmacro wrote:

> The trick is get the right balance between soft light and enough light for the subject..

that's it!

- You have to avoid hard reflections

- It would be nice to have some decent shadows

- target starting 3cm in front of the big lensto human portrait size and distance

- packed size: fuji film container or cd cover size

....and all this with a single (onboard or external) light source, deviding its beam into diffused and bounced rays. Scaleable and turnable, this is what I am dreaming of.

Someparts of these problemsare solved.

At least I have got some comments on my pictures at other sites, that these pics can't be taken with the onboard flash ;-)

Sven

But I have some new ideas on a simpler design.

These will be published after some tests - next week.












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