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Biro Feb 1, 2010 3:10 PM

Tokina Releases 11-16mm f/2.8 Lens for Sony
 
It's true. Tokina has released their 11-16mm f/2.8 ultra wide angle lens in an Alpha mount. Check out the dpreview piece:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10...116mmalpha.asp

Now, could this be reason for long-suffering Pentaxians to have hope that a Pentax-branded version of this lens will be introduced soon? Or is this just a slap in the face?

For any new Pentaxians who may not already know, Tokina and Pentax share the same parent company... Hoya. And the Pentax DA 12-24mmf/4, the DA* 16-50 f/2.8 and the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 lenses are all essentially the same lenses as corresponding Tokinas with proprietary Pentax coatings.

Hards80 Feb 1, 2010 3:13 PM

it really makes little sense they have not made the 11-16 for Pentax. really is quite a slap in the face considering the ease in which they would have in converting it or rebranding it.

but we could look on the brightside and hope this good news for Alpha-shooters hints at the coming of other mounts (pentax, 4/3 maybe)

lesmore49 Feb 1, 2010 3:24 PM

post deleted by poster. Sorry double post

lesmore49 Feb 1, 2010 3:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biro (Post 1046935)
It's true. Tokina has released their 11-16mm f/2.8 ultra wide angle lens in an Alpha mount. Check out the dpreview piece:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10...116mmalpha.asp

Now, could this be reason for long-suffering Pentaxians to have hope that a Pentax-branded version of this lens will be introduced soon? Or is this just a slap in the face?

For any new Pentaxians who may not already know, Tokina and Pentax share the same parent company... Hoya. And the Pentax DA 12-24mmf/4, the DA* 16-50 f/2.8 and the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 lenses are all essentially the same lenses as corresponding Tokinas with proprietary Pentax coatings.



Add the Pentax 10-17 Fisheye to the mix.

I think that it's a marketing decision by Hoya. I wonder who designed these lenses...Pentax or Tokina ?


I wonder about advantage/disadvantage to Pentax as a brand, when Hoya markets some of the best Pentax lenses under the Tokina brand with their competitors' mounts.

Hards80 Feb 1, 2010 3:27 PM

actually it looks like they were jointly developed.

Walter_S Feb 1, 2010 3:55 PM

I feel sympathy with 'long suffering' Pentaxians - really I do. I know so well what it means to be cut off by one of the best wideangle-zooms available, certainly the one with widest aperture.

I want one on my Panasonic G1 as well, but Tokina is not making it's 11-16 for the m4/3rds either.....:o....so...:cry:

I am actually thinking of moving to either Canon or Nikon, just to get my hands on that lens! :icon_twisted:


BTW: Would it work to get a Panasonic/Nikon-adapter and get the Tokina 11-16 with a Nikon-mount to put on my G1......?

Probably not, eh? No autoFocus, no metering...?

Hards80 Feb 1, 2010 4:01 PM

it would function like the manual function lenses do. and use stop-down metering.

Biro Feb 1, 2010 4:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter_S (Post 1046958)
I feel sympathy with 'long suffering' Pentaxians - really I do. I know so well what it means to be cut off by one of the best wideangle-zooms available, certainly the one with widest aperture.

I want one on my Panasonic G1 as well, but Tokina is not making it's 11-16 for the m4/3rds either.....:o....so...:cry:

I am actually thinking of moving to either Canon or Nikon, just to get my hands on that lens! :icon_twisted:


BTW: Would it work to get a Panasonic/Nikon-adapter and get the Tokina 11-16 with a Nikon-mount to put on my G1......?

Probably not, eh? No autoFocus, no metering...?

On the other hand Walter... Panasonic is offering that 7-14mm f/4 fixed-aperture lens for micro four-thirds. It looks like a peach:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...io_7_14mm.html

On the other hand, it's a thousand dollars. The Tokina 11-16 is $600... but I'll bet it would be more like $800-900 as a Pentax.

Gad... this is all so much money. Maybe I should just ratchet down and buy a Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 or a Tamron 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5.

Wingman Feb 1, 2010 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biro (Post 1046935)
For any new Pentaxians who may not already know, Tokina and Pentax share the same parent company... Hoya. .

Based on the weblink below from Hoya Corporation's wesite, I see no evidence that Tokina is part of Hoya's corporate structure either as a wholly owned subsidiary or one that it has any ownership in. On the other hand, Pentax is clearly listed. I agree that Tokina makes lenses for Pentax, but would like to know definitively if they are under the same ownership. Not withstanding that, their glass is top notch!

http://www.hoya.co.jp/english/compan...any_02_02.html

bhammitt Feb 1, 2010 5:01 PM

I have the Tokina 11 - 16, it is so much fun to shoot with it never comes off my D-90!!!!! Get it if you can!

Bob

shoturtle Feb 1, 2010 6:44 PM

Walter,

If tokina comes out with a 4/3 version of this lens, you just need to get the 4/3 to m4/3 adapter. But with the crop factor of 2 vs 1.6 the tokina will not be as wide as you expect. The panny 7-14 will be much wider on the G1.

Walter_S Feb 1, 2010 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoturtle (Post 1047002)
...The panny 7-14 will be much wider on the G1.

Yes, but the Panny is twice the price of the Tokina, and right now, I cannot even afford the Tokina, let alone the Panny....:o

Lets put it another way. For the price of the Panny 7-14 I could buy a D5000 + the Tokina....:eek:

shoturtle Feb 1, 2010 7:20 PM

Yup that is a very expensive lens. I was looking at the panny m4/3 macro lens for my soon to purchase EP-2, it was 900 dollars. I decide if I get the EP-2 or GF1 I will get the adapter and get the oly 35mm 3.5 macro instead, the 2 would cost only 300 dollars. And still have full auto. The panny lenses are very expensive.

Have you consider something like the zukio 9-18mm or sigma 10-20mm 4/3 lenses with the panny adapter for the G1? I know it is not as bright, but very wide though.

Walter_S Feb 2, 2010 3:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoturtle (Post 1047018)
...Have you consider something like the zukio 9-18mm or sigma 10-20mm 4/3 lenses with the panny adapter for the G1? I know it is not as bright, but very wide though.


Interesting idea, but:
As far as I know, Sigma only makes the 10-20mm for either Canon-, Nikon-, Pentax- and Alpha-mount.: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/SL...196+4291220258 I have never heard or seen this lens with a 4/3rd mount....? Have you?

As for the Zuiko 9-18mm I dont't know the Olympus-lenses all that good. Would it's AF and metering work on my G1 with a Panasonic to 4/3rds adapter? I think not entirely....?

BTW - I don't know how long we can go on and use the hospitality of the Pentax lens-forum to discuss Tokina vs Sigma / Zuiko. I hope we are not trodding on somebody's toe her.

In that case, I apologize!
:o

But then, this is the way many threads on Internet-forum goes - On starts out within one specific item, and before you know, you are somewhere else, entirely. :crazy1:

Hards80 Feb 2, 2010 2:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter_S (Post 1047189)
Interesting idea, but:
As far as I know, Sigma only makes the 10-20mm for either Canon-, Nikon-, Pentax- and Alpha-mount.: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/SL...196+4291220258 I have never heard or seen this lens with a 4/3rd mount....? Have you?
:


http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...5_6_EX_DC.html

this is the better 10-20 from sigma too, even though its not constant f3.5 it has less distortion/vignette

shoturtle Feb 2, 2010 2:21 PM

Yes all the features of the 4/3 lens will be fully available on the g1 body. I went to a camera shop and confirmed it as I am seriously planning to get a m4/3 travel camera for the wife.

Here is a link to the sigma for the oly
http://www.adorama.com/SG1020OM.html

Also zuikos makes some fantastic lens. Very high quality, and super light. I would serious look into the 4/3 to m4/3 mount form panny. And look at some of the oly lenses and the sigma.

It is true that you can get adapter mounts for a m4/3 to uses nikon, canon fe, and pentax lenses. You will not have auto features.

No offense taken walter, I just happen to live in a city that is huge on camera gear. And I get access to allot of info. Glad I could share some of the info with you. It may help on your next lens decision or new body upgrade.

Walter_S Feb 3, 2010 6:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hards80 (Post 1047352)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...5_6_EX_DC.html

this is the better 10-20 from sigma too, even though its not constant f3.5 ...


Quote:

Originally Posted by shoturtle (Post 1047353)
...Here is a link to the sigma for the oly
http://www.adorama.com/SG1020OM.html...

So, ther really is a Sigma 10-20mm with 4/3rds mount - interesting! I didn't know that.

Thank you both, Dustin and Shoturtle, for this helpful info and the links!

:)

Biro Feb 4, 2010 4:31 PM

I'm pretty sure Sigma is the only third-party lens maker to built lenses with a four-thirds mount. If I'm not mistaken, there's one other lens in Sigma's lineup for four-thirds:

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/len...7&navigator=17


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