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Old Dec 31, 2006, 9:47 AM   #1
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Still trying to get the hang of the k10d, only the weather is working against me. So an experiment at the local zoo to try out some close up/macro shots. (these critters are about 1/2cm, 1/5" big.)

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Exposure: 0.006 sec (1/180)
Aperture: f/1.7
Focal Length: 50 mm
ISO Speed: 400


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Old Dec 31, 2006, 10:20 AM   #2
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Ronny - Very nice. I did very good last year using either a 28mm or 50mm with a #3 close up lens. I now have a 50mm macro lens, but the close up lens did a good job for me on wildflowers- Bruce
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Old Dec 31, 2006, 4:59 PM   #3
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Macro is difficult, and at 1.7, your DOF is pretty small. The first one reflects that, where half of the little frog is in focus, but his head isn't. Next time you might want to try to up the ISO to 800 so you can use a bit smaller aperture, and try to get the head in focus. It takes lots of practice to get it right (I still miss the focus all the time).
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Old Dec 31, 2006, 5:39 PM   #4
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above is correct. i never shoot macros below f8. f16-20 is what i use. focusing is the learning curve. i set the lens focus and then lean in and out to get focus. a lot of the time if not using flash(which i usually do) i'll have the cam set to burst mode and take 5 shots as fast as the cam will work. also, don't feel bad about missing shots. be tough on yourself, no sense wasting hdd space for the ones not good and sharp. many think shooting macros are easy since your subject is close and usually inert. those people have never shot good truly sharp macros.. enjoy your new endeavor as it can quickly become addictive. get a set of extension tubes. it is about the cheapest way to go. a good 50mm works great and you have one..

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ron, a really true macro is a 1:1 ratio of subject size to what's recorded. in other words about the head size of this frog would be a full frame shot.
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Ronny - even though it's not perfectly sharp, I like the composition in #2. That froghas decided to get somewhere!

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Old Jan 1, 2007, 8:05 AM   #6
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yes, i like the 2nd one best.
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Old Jan 1, 2007, 1:01 PM   #7
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Thanks Bruce,

Thanks mntgal, next time i'll try a smaller apperture

Thanks Roy, especially for the comparison between close up and macro, I had not the faintiest idea what a 1:1 would do.

Thanks kjell
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Old Jan 1, 2007, 2:47 PM   #8
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Ronny - I bought a M50-f4 off Ebay this Fall and it is only 1:.5 or 1/2 to 1. I'm not sure how you say it, but it is good enough for wildflowers. If your interest is small insects then you need a 1:1 or extension tubes. I have been very happy with what I can do with the 1:.5 Ihave and if I need more, I can just slip on a close up lens, but haven't had to yet - Bruce
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i like 2
depth of field is the key to good macros
either by flash or iso ratings
or being lucky enough to have good light to start with

to increase the size i use diopter lenses +1 +2 +4
not the most ideal way to do it
but cheap

i have also reversed a 50mm lens onto a 50mm lens with varying success
i have a few here
http://johndolphin.net/photos/categories.php?cat_id=21
i think i say how i did each

the fuji ones dont count

it has inbuilt macro
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Old Jan 2, 2007, 1:50 PM   #10
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Thanks Bruce,
Thanks Gumnut,

I'm just trying out the dcr150/dcr250 i have been using on my panasonic fz5 and think i'm getting closer. :G

I first thought it was not going to work but the result aren't that bad, and they will give me the extra practice i need.

Don't dare to open ebay, I already went twice over my budget i'll first have to wait and use the stuff i have.

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