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Old Nov 17, 2010, 9:13 PM   #1
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I am here in Tuktoyaktuk NWT Canada with my F 100-300mm, my FA 50mm f1.4, my FA 28-70mm f4 and my DA 10-17mm fisheye. Notice a large hole in my focal lengths from 17mm to 28mm (I don't count the 70-100mm hole since it is less useful). As a result of this I went looking on ebay, wow did you see what kit lenses are going for??!! I got an original 18-55mm with original lens hood and all original packaging for $42. The only thing wrong was it had a rear cap from a Sigma lens!

I didn't realize how important that range is, the kit lens may well stay on the camera most of the time since I will be shooting events such as the local drum dances where 28mm is too long and the 17mm end of the fisheye gives a little too much distortion. I also picked up a Stroboframe flash flip bracket (my old camera flip model was too small for the K10 with battery pack) for $28 so now I can put on the old Vivitar 285 and have a great set up for local events.

I would love to have a 16-45mm f4 (a close digital relative to my old FA 28-70mm f4) but it is difficult to get one of them for under $50

I can now change my signature to reflect my new aquisition. BTW I put a Cokin ring on it and I am using a cokin hood since I told my wife to keep the hood in Gander to replace the one she lost from her 18-55mm.
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 9:36 PM   #2
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Nice pick-up! For a long time I didn't mind missing out on the range between 24 and 50, but after a while it got annoying. I can imagine that it would be frustrating to go from a FE17 to 28. So a good idea to pick up the kit lens.

My old kit lens just doesn't cut it anymore for me. I liked it and used it often until I got the K20, and then the camera out-resolved mine and I've only used it a couple of times on the K100 since.
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 10:50 PM   #3
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Nice to have a full range of lenses. I noticed you mentioned you were going to put your Vivitar 285 flash on a flash bracket.

I have a Vivitar 285 HV that I've had for over 25 years. It's a great flash, powerful used it on everything from my old Leica RF to medium format (used the wide angle insert)..pictures always came out well.

I haven't used it on the hot shoes my digital bodies, either my K10D or my KM...I'm afraid that the high voltage of the 285 HV will fry the circuitry of the cameras.

If I understand correctly is the flash bracket connected to the camera body by only the tripod mount and then do you connect camera with flash...by remote signal...not directly using the hot shoe ?

I have a Pentax 360 and I've never been pleased with it....would like to use the 285 HV again.
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ira,
how is the 28-70/4..
i've read it's as good as it's big brother the *28-70/2.8 just with a loss of a stop..
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Hey Ira, is your new-to-you DA 18-55 really the original version of the kit lens - as from the six-megapixel K100 days - or is it a Mark II edition? I ask because you have a K10 and Pentax upgraded the kit 18-55 to handle the higher resolution of the ten-megapixel cameras at the time.

At any rate... enjoy the lens. I'm keeping my eye on the new 18-135 WR lens. If it's as good as I hope, perhaps my DA 16-45 will go on the market.
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Nice to have a full range of lenses. I noticed you mentioned you were going to put your Vivitar 285 flash on a flash bracket.

I have a Vivitar 285 HV that I've had for over 25 years. It's a great flash, powerful used it on everything from my old Leica RF to medium format (used the wide angle insert)..pictures always came out well.

I haven't used it on the hot shoes my digital bodies, either my K10D or my KM...I'm afraid that the high voltage of the 285 HV will fry the circuitry of the cameras.

If I understand correctly is the flash bracket connected to the camera body by only the tripod mount and then do you connect camera with flash...by remote signal...not directly using the hot shoe ?

I have a Pentax 360 and I've never been pleased with it....would like to use the 285 HV again.
Check the trigger voltage, mine is only about 7V so well within safety for a Pentax (but risky on a Canon). My flash has the remote sensor cord so it still attaches to the hot shoe. See the attached image. It is easy to test trigger voltage with a digital multimeter. My old Vivitar 283 was off the scale so I only use it with a remote slave or on the Fuji S7000.
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Hey Ira, is your new-to-you DA 18-55 really the original version of the kit lens - as from the six-megapixel K100 days - or is it a Mark II edition? I ask because you have a K10 and Pentax upgraded the kit 18-55 to handle the higher resolution of the ten-megapixel cameras at the time.

At any rate... enjoy the lens. I'm keeping my eye on the new 18-135 WR lens. If it's as good as I hope, perhaps my DA 16-45 will go on the market.
My 18-55mm is the original version but the results look pretty good so far. I would eventually want to get the 18-55mm WR and the 50-200mm WR as well.
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Nice pick-up! For a long time I didn't mind missing out on the range between 24 and 50, but after a while it got annoying. I can imagine that it would be frustrating to go from a FE17 to 28. So a good idea to pick up the kit lens.

My old kit lens just doesn't cut it anymore for me. I liked it and used it often until I got the K20, and then the camera out-resolved mine and I've only used it a couple of times on the K100 since.
Harriet, I know what you mean, I may get a 16-45mm f4 if I can get one for a good price, the DA* 16-50mm is too pricey for me.
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Check the trigger voltage, mine is only about 7V so well within safety for a Pentax (but risky on a Canon). My flash has the remote sensor cord so it still attaches to the hot shoe. See the attached image. It is easy to test trigger voltage with a digital multimeter. My old Vivitar 283 was off the scale so I only use it with a remote slave or on the Fuji S7000.
Thanks Ira. I'll check it out. They're great flashes. Also remote firing....using it as a slave to my 360 might be an idea.

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Nice to have a full range of lenses. I noticed you mentioned you were going to put your Vivitar 285 flash on a flash bracket.

I have a Vivitar 285 HV that I've had for over 25 years. It's a great flash, powerful used it on everything from my old Leica RF to medium format (used the wide angle insert)..pictures always came out well.

I haven't used it on the hot shoes my digital bodies, either my K10D or my KM...I'm afraid that the high voltage of the 285 HV will fry the circuitry of the cameras.

If I understand correctly is the flash bracket connected to the camera body by only the tripod mount and then do you connect camera with flash...by remote signal...not directly using the hot shoe ?

I have a Pentax 360 and I've never been pleased with it....would like to use the 285 HV again.
I've used My 285 HV Zoom Thyristor flash on both my K10D and my K7 with Great Results and no problems.
The trigger voltage is low enough with it to be safe. But some of the other Vivitar flashes could be a problem.
From the Strobist Web site...

The 285HV is basically a pimped-out 283 that also offers a zoom head and full manual control - just the way we like it. 285HV's are also safe for your digicam, with a ~6v trigger voltage.

PLEASE NOTE that older 285's which are NOT designated as "HV" are NOT voltage safe and can fry your digital baby. Be warned.

The Vivitar 285HV, and its less-versatile sibling, the 283, have been a staple of off-camera lighting for more than a generation. But newer model flashes have gotten more computerized, with TTL functions and wireless IR capability. But they have also gotten price tags to match, heading north of $300 each.

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/02...f-classic.html

My Granddaughter's wedding...K7 with a Vivitar 85mm f/1.4 and the 285 HV Zoom Thrystor.
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