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Old Oct 13, 2006, 11:26 AM   #21
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can we change the title of this thread to 'Ricehigh's delusionally perceived and ill-conceived perception of a product he hasn't touched or seen in person?'

i do concede that on occasion you have made valid points (overly analyzed, but valid non-the-less). you are however not even reviewing aspects of the camera here, but written materials about a future product that you have yet to spend one second. save your bellowing breath for a hands on review, i'll be sure i read it then, i promise, really. oh, and to respond to your critique of the camera in another thread you started about points you already don't like (again, depsite having touched this product), the camera actually appears to make many features easily accessible on the camera body. perhaps you enjoy delving deep into menu systems while out taking photos (if you ever do that), but i myself prefer to have as many features operated at the touch of a button as possible.
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Old Oct 13, 2006, 12:30 PM   #22
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This is the reason Ricehigh is no longer welcome at DPReview. Hopefully, permamently.
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Old Oct 13, 2006, 1:05 PM   #23
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Is anyone here familiar with the Monty Python argument sketch?

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Old Oct 13, 2006, 2:11 PM   #24
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Would that be the parrot sketch or the one in the "dept for lies"?

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Old Oct 13, 2006, 2:14 PM   #25
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Ira, you made me install my old "complete waste of time"cdrom again after many years.

Have to listen to the vinyl this weekend!

Being Dutch I understand your argument....:?



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A reception desk in a sort of office building.

Receptionist: Yes, sir?

Man: I'd like to have an argument please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir, have you been here before...?

Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see. Do you want to have the full argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?

Man: Well, what would be the cost?

Receptionist: Yes, it's one pound for a five-minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.

Man: Well, I think it's probably best of I start with the one and see how it goes from there. OK?

Receptionist: Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment... Mr. Du-Bakey's free, but he's a little bit concilliatory... Yes, try Mr. Barnard -- Room 12.

Man: Thank you.

[...] The man knocks on the door.

Mr Vibrating:(from within) Come in.

The man enters the room. Mr Vibrating is sitting at a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Mr Vibrating: I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I have.

Man: When?

Mr Vibrating: Just now!

Man: No you didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: I'm telling you I did!

Man: You did not!

Mr Vibrating: I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half-hour?

Man: Oh, just a five minute one.

Mr Vibrating: Fine. (makes a note of it; the man sits down) Thank you. Anyway I did.

Man: You most certainly did not.

Mr Vibrating: Now, let's get one thing quite clear... I most definitely told you!

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: You did not.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did.

Man: Didn't.

Mr Vibrating: Yes I did!!

Man: Look this isn't an argument.

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, it's just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: It is not.

Man: It is. You just contradicted me.

Mr Vibrating: No I didn't.

Man: Ooh, you did!

Mr Vibrating: No, no, no, no, no.

Man: You did, just then.

Mr Vibrating: No, nonsense!

Man: Oh, look this is futile.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: I came here for a good argument.

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't, you came here for an argument.

Man: Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: It can be.

Man: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a definite proposition.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.

Man: But it isn't just saying "No it isn't".

Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.

Man: No it isn't, an argument is an intellectual process... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

Man: Yes it is.

Mr Vibrating: Not at all.

Man: Now look!

Mr Vibrating:(pressing the bell on his desk) Thank you, good morning.

Man: What?

Mr Vibrating: That's it. Good morning.

Man: But I was just getting interested.

Mr Vibrating: Sorry the five minutes is up.

Man: That was never five minutes just now!

Mr Vibrating: I'm afraid it was.

Man: No it wasn't.

Mr Vibrating: I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

Man: What!?

Mr Vibrating: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

Man: But that was never five minutes just now... oh come on! (Vibrating looks round as though man was not there) This is ridiculous.

Mr Vibrating: I'm very sorry, but I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.

Man: Oh. All right. (pays) There you are.

Mr Vibrating: Thank you.

Man: Well?

Mr Vibrating: Well what?

Man: That was never five minutes just now.

Mr Vibrating: I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.

Man: I've just paid.

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.

Man: I did! I did! I did!

Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.

Man: Look I don't want to argue about that.

Mr Vibrating: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay.

Man: Aha! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing... got you!

Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

Man: Yes I have... if you're arguing I must have paid.

Mr Vibrating: Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.

Man: I've had enough of this.

Mr Vibrating: No you haven't.

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Old Oct 13, 2006, 2:23 PM   #26
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oreo57 wrote:
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Would that be the parrot sketch or the one in the "dept for lies"?

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Is anyone here familiar with the Monty Python argument sketch?

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No the "Argument" sketch involves a man looking for the room where you can buy an argument. Along the way he finds the "abuse" room, where he is needlessly insulted, and the "getting hit on the head lessons" room where the object is to make the correct scream for being hit in the head. He finally finds the desired room.


Although the "Dead Parrot" and the "Cheese Shop" sketches include some classic arguments, it is the total pointlessness of thisargument that makes itone of theircult classics.

Oops, looks like Ritro beat me to it.

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Old Oct 13, 2006, 2:25 PM   #27
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Monza76 schreef:
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Would that be the parrot sketch or the one in the "dept for lies"?

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No the "Argument" sketch involves a man looking for the room where you can buy an argument. Along the way he finds the "abuse" room, where he is needlessly insulted, and the "getting hit on the head lessons" room where the object is to make the correct scream for being hit in the head.
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No you didn't!

:lol:Perfect Richard, absolutely perfect.

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77907195969915



But I did! didn't I ?



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But I did! didn't I ?



Richard.

Thanks for the link, and BTW, No you didn't.

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