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Old Nov 17, 2006, 8:49 AM   #1
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First, my recent last post refers:-

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=109108&forum_id=80


Actually, my Pentax lens lineup is also very complete. I do think also that I do own some of the best glass on this planet, which are all from Pentax. But I am very susceptible to verify if the K10D is really a better camera than my K100D image quality wise.

Just for sharing, my *current* lens lineup is (I think it has been a long time that I have not posted about my gear purchase and selling anywhere on the net):

1. DA 16-45/4

2. FA 17-28/3.5-4.5 Fisheye (rarely use for any of my Pentax DSLRs since the main purpose of this FE lens is 180 deg of view!)

3. DA 18-55/3.5-5.6 (this is my second copy which is better, the last one was sold after owing for weeks)

4. FAJ 18-35/4-5.6 (now used only on MZ-S for FF)

5. FA 24-90/3.5-4.5 (recently used it again just because it performs better on the K100D then any *ist Dx)

For details, see:- http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...mp;forum_id=80

6. FA 28/2.8 (my standard prime on Pentax DSLRs, it is not excellent in optical quality but is still quite good and is very handy and small)

7. F 35-70/3.5-4.5 (a very traditional tasted Pentax optics, high resolution and nice bokeh, but my copy was actually too old that now it has a slight yellowish cast)

8. FA 43/1.9 Limited (my standard portrait prime on my Pentax bodies)

9. FA* 85/1.4 (still the best lens amongst ALL, on any body, digital or film!)

10 F 80-200/4.7-5.6 (a very lightweight and interesting lens, it is actually the miniature version of the FA* 80-200/2.8 with internal zooming mechanism. Optically, it is quite good, although far from perfect)

11. DFA 100/2.8 macro (I don't like this lens because its taste is like a Tokina more than a Pentax, although it is super sharp!)

12. F* 300/4.5 (well, it was not easy for me to find mine! in very mint condition used! I didn't buy the FA version as I think the tripod collar is important! Once again, the newer is not necessary better!)

13. Tamron (actually Kenko) MC4 1.4X AF convertor

14. Kenko Teleplus Pro 3X AF convertor (very good in coating and build and obviously better than the cheapo 1.4 MC4, optically it is very good too (and so does the 1.4X MC4 which has a much inferior coating, though)

15. Sigma KAF 70-210/4-5.6 (the first Sigma Pentax AF mount clone, it is now somehow incompatible with *ist Dx and K100D at the longer end, although it is reported as the Pentax F 70-210/4-5.6. Optically, it is okay and is the best already for quite some Sigma I have used.

16. Sigma KPR 28/2.8 MF. Physically it feels very good for the build - black coated metal for the whole lens barrel and silky smooth MF action. But optically, it is a big joke. Blurry corners even stopped down on 1.5X cropped DSLRs, ridiculous flare control, over +1EV overexposure compared to other Pentax primes (which is most accurate but itself) and so on.


Well, with my heavy investment on Pentax and for the lenses which I love (and I cannot find some replacments for them with any brand regarding my FA*85 and FA 43 Limited), sometimes I do seriously consider the K10D. But then my research of recent months so far just tell me that I shall NOT gain much for "upgrading" to a K10D (from K100) but the reverse might be true.

I just don't need many of the K10D gimmicks such as weather proof body (just becoz none of my current lenses is weatherproof, btw) but I need a more accurate DSLR body, e.g. more accurate multi-segment metering, more accurate and faster AF (from the you-tube K10D AF test video, it seems that the AF is not something faster than my K100D with (R)CR-V3 and from the interview with Pentax's chief designer, he says that the K10D's AF is the same in accuracy as K100D which is greatly disappointed for a 10MP camera - and also the K100D does always front-focusing under tungsten light..)

Hope that when more K10D samples are out, and that I can have a trial of the production model hands on later, I can have a better impression on the 10D. I bet that I probably wait fo the next (higher ranked) Pentax DSLR anyway, at this moment.

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Old Nov 17, 2006, 8:52 AM   #2
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Well, the subject end should be "not convinced for a K10D". Sometimes I think the truncated subject tail without any warning and it is not limited is somehow annoying :-(

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Old Nov 17, 2006, 9:10 AM   #3
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Wow. nice list. I hear people can take nice pictures with lenses like that.
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 10:33 AM   #4
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I notice you don't have any of the new pancakes yet. Have you tried them outand do you have an opinion on them. I have seen some pretty nice pictures taken with them. I wonder if they are going to become the replacements for the 3older limiteds- Bruce
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 11:22 AM   #5
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It would be a big help to the forum to post a tripod mounted photo from each of those lenses you feel are the best to see what they are capable of.

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Old Nov 17, 2006, 12:05 PM   #6
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Wow. All those lenses and no 50mm? I keep reading that every photographer must have one! I can see how you can attest to the quality of images coming from the new cameras. The k10d specs show the same AF system and the same metering system which is a slight disappointment to me, but all the other features add up.I think the K10d will be a better camera overall than the k100d and will be an excelent upgrade from my ist DL. If after testing it and seeing reviews with negative results, I would probably jump ship to Nikon(D80). You would have a tough time doing that with all the lens investment. I currently have only 4 lenses in my collection.
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Old Nov 17, 2006, 12:25 PM   #7
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If after testing it and seeing reviews with negative results, I would probably jump ship to Nikon(D80). You would have a tough time doing that with all the lens investment. I currently have only 4 lenses in my collection.

The Nikon D80 is not a better dSLR than the Pentax K10D based on specifications and the latest ISO 1600 results. I can't see how the K10D will be having negative results when the Nikon D80 apparently got all positive results! Better to keep your valuable Pentax lenses and go for the K10D.

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Old Nov 17, 2006, 12:35 PM   #8
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I have always found the "I will jump ship" thing to be amusing, since there is very little difference between Nikon, Canon and Pentax. I have been shooting with friends that are professional photographers with my DS for quite a while now and I honestly have no N/C envy.

Switching to either of those brands will not make me a better photographer and I find my DS able to do things their cameras (D200 and 5D) can not. On the other side, they don't have any Pentax envy either, but all three cameras produce quality images, none of which are superior to the others in every image the camera shoots.

Pick a brand and stick with it, learn how to be the best photographer you can be instead of constantly looking for some new piece of equipment that will do it for you. I am getting the K10D, but not so it will make me a better photographer, but because it has some features I want that no other Pentax camera so far has.

I certainly could switch to Nikon or Canon if I wanted since I have quite a few A* and F*/FA* lenses that sell for outrageous prices and would cover the entire cost of switching if I felt at a disadvantage with my present gear, but I do not.

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Well said. Well said indeed. I have a friend who uses a canon 20d and the top canon lenses. Despite having thousands of dollars worth of photography equipment, let's just say I have not been impressed with the pics that he takes. He has a great camera and awesome equipment, but fundamentally, the problem is that he is not a good photographer. His answer instead of trying to learn more photography, is to go out and buy more expensive equipment based up reviews that says such and such lens is best. It saddens and annoys me quite a bit.

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I have always found the "I will jump ship" thing to be amusing, since there is very little difference between Nikon, Canon and Pentax. I have been shooting with friends that are professional photographers with my DS for quite a while now and I honestly have no N/C envy.

Switching to either of those brands will not make me a better photographer and I find my DS able to do things their cameras (D200 and 5D) can not. On the other side, they don't have any Pentax envy either, but all three cameras produce quality images, none of which are superior to the others in every image the camera shoots.

Pick a brand and stick with it, learn how to be the best photographer you can be instead of constantly looking for some new piece of equipment that will do it for you. I am getting the K10D, but not so it will make me a better photographer, but because it has some features I want that no other Pentax camera so far has.

I certainly could switch to Nikon or Canon if I wanted since I have quite a few A* and F*/FA* lenses that sell for outrageous prices and would cover the entire cost of switching if I felt at a disadvantage with my present gear, but I do not.

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His answer instead of trying to learn more photography, is to go out and buy more expensive equipment based up reviews that says such and such lens is best. It saddens and annoys me quite a bit.
One of the reasons that I stick with a modest selection of lens - what can't be done with a Pentax DA 18-55mm & Pentax DA 50-200mm isn't worth worrying about, IMHO, unless you're into specialist work etc. or a semi professional.


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