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Old Nov 23, 2006, 4:29 AM   #1
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Hello,
I now have a Fuji S5200/5500 4mp 10xzoom digital camera and love to photo birds ( see www.wolf9.org , see photos page) and now have decided to upgrade to a DSLR .

I have seen here and elsewhere how beautifully the K100D photographs birds so I think the K100D after much research is the DSLR for me .

However I am confused with what kit to buy here in Australia.
I can get either the -SIGMA AF 24-70mmHF + 70-300mmDL MACRO SUPER TWIN LENS KIT for $AU999
or
PENTAX K100D DIGITAL SLR KIT w SIGMA AF 18-50mm & 55-200mm ZOOM LENSES for $1299

see - http://www.wowwicked.com.au/catpages/page10.htm

All advice will be much appreciated,
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Old Nov 23, 2006, 6:09 AM   #2
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the first one, with the 70-300mm has a lot more tele reach, which is crucial for birding, so I'd go with that one.
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Old Nov 23, 2006, 6:36 AM   #3
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or yo could go for the 2nd kit as i really like the 50-200 and i also use it with a Tamron 1.4x tc which gives decent results
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Hi,

I would choose the first one. Then once you learn the camera and lenses you can start looking for a longer prime lens.

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Old Nov 23, 2006, 7:35 AM   #5
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or yo could go for the 2nd kit as i really like the 50-200 and i also use it with a Tamron 1.4x tc which gives decent results
He lives in australia, so I don't think he means the Pentax DA 50-200mm, but the (less quality) Sigma 55-200mm.

I agree though that if you can get the standard Pentax lenses for the same price, go for it.
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My opinions is to shoot (wild) bird you need to have the longer and faster possible lens(es) so that zoom is not needed anyway, as it will be mostly set at the longest side for most reach.

Do get a faster prime and later on a 1.4X if you are more serious about wild birding. For a starter lens, I would recommend the Tokina 80-400 ATX, but not the Sigma. For cheap Pentax alternative, do consider the FAJ 70-300 although it is too slow at f/5.6 at 300mm.

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Hello,
I now have a Fuji S5200/5500 4mp 10xzoom digital camera and love to photo birds ( see http://www.wolf9.org , see photos page) and now have decided to upgrade to a DSLR .

I have seen here and elsewhere how beautifully the K100D photographs birds so I think the K100D after much research is the DSLR for me .

However I am confused with what kit to buy here in Australia.
I can get either the -SIGMA AF 24-70mmHF + 70-300mmDL MACRO SUPER TWIN LENS KIT for $AU999
or
PENTAX K100D DIGITAL SLR KIT w SIGMA AF 18-50mm & 55-200mm ZOOM LENSES for $1299

see - http://www.wowwicked.com.au/catpages/page10.htm

All advice will be much appreciated,
Rodney.
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Old Nov 23, 2006, 9:36 AM   #7
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For a starter lens, I would recommend the Tokina 80-400 ATX, but not the Sigma.

Are you refering to the Sigma 135-400 zoom? And if so I would be interested in whats wrong with it? Does Tokina make the 80-400 in a pentax mount? I've only seen them listed in Canon and Nikon mounts, but of course I Could have missed them.
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Hi,

My opinion is that 200mm would be too short for birding. You really need at least 300mm range. I was looking at the advertisement for the kits that you mentioned. One of them has the sigma 70-300mm. It does not look the like the APO version which I highly recommend. Here is a review on the APO version of this lens and why it is worth paying a little more for this version.

http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/...fm?test_id=369

I also looked on your website and notice that you like to photograph flowers. If you are on a budget, I would recommend the following:

1) K100D
2) Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro (becareful there are many versions of this lens, the most updated one with the best optics is the APO DG Macro).

I ran the numbers and it would be about $936 AUD

This gives you telephoto range for birding and 1:2 macro for flowers and large insects. Its a very good combination for outdoor photography in general and at a very affordable price.

Here are some pics that I have taken with this combo.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/royce10...7594383798410/

Looking forward to seeing your future pictures after you get your camera. You are gonna love the K100D!
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Speaking of shooting, here is another option. Purchase a used $20 BB gun on E-bay- shoot whatever you want to photograph...prop it up against a fencepost, and use the kit 18-55. It'll be pretty sharp and you'll fill the whole frame.

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Hi,

My opinion is that 200mm would be too short for birding. You really need at least 300mm range. I was looking at the advertisement for the kits that you mentioned. One of them has the sigma 70-300mm. It does not look the like the APO version which I highly recommend. Here is a review on the APO version of this lens and why it is worth paying a little more for this version.

http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/...fm?test_id=369

I also looked on your website and notice that you like to photograph flowers. If you are on a budget, I would recommend the following:

1) K100D
2) Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro (becareful there are many versions of this lens, the most updated one with the best optics is the APO DG Macro).

I ran the numbers and it would be about $936 AUD

This gives you telephoto range for birding and 1:2 macro for flowers and large insects. Its a very good combination for outdoor photography in general and at a very affordable price.

Here are some pics that I have taken with this combo.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/royce10...7594383798410/

Looking forward to seeing your future pictures after you get your camera. You are gonna love the K100D!
Thankyou Everyone for your advice.

The best price I can find here in Australia for the Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro is $AU 449
and
best price for the K100D is $AU 779 body only
or
$AU835 with a Sigma 18-50mm Lens
or
the $AU999 with Sigma AF 24-70mmHF + 70-300mmDL MACRO SUPER TWIN LENS KIT as above.

Would I be able to get by with just the Sigma 70-300mm APO DG Macro lens only ?
What are the main differences between it and the 70-300mmDL MACRO SUPER and would it be worth the couple of hundred dollars extra ?
Also is there a magnifer for the veiw finder available as I have a little trouble seeing the settings and is their a shutter release.

Thanks Again,
Rodney
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