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Old Jan 26, 2007, 4:02 AM   #1
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Hi everyone,

having a 300mm now, I wanted to try my hand at some BIF, but really ...
you all make it seem to easy.

Can you give me some pointers on how to improve,

for example
  • when using auto focus,
    do you use continuous or single auto focus, or never use auto focus.

    how do you keep those B's in the viewfinder (is a red dot sight required)

    i guess AV is the best to get those shots but what shutter speed is good

    if setting that aperture, do you go for large/small
Thanks - Ronny

this is the first shot I think is good [edit - changed my mind from just acceptable to good after al the nice remarks - thanks]


exif data, I know these setting can be greatly improved upon, but it was so fast that I just used the camera without thinking (and then this turned out to be the best of a day experimenting)
Camera Pentax K10D
Exposure:0.001 sec (1/1000)
Aperture:f/11
Focal Length:300 mm
ISO Speed:560
Exposure Bias:-1/2 EV
Metering Mode:Spot

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 5:16 AM   #2
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BIF? - Birds in flight - Build in Focus
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 5:21 AM   #3
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Ronny

Beautiful shot and timely capture. To me not much to improve on. I would love to have a bif shot like that . I have not made one yet.

Well done. Really with 0.001 sec (1/1000) & Aperture:f/11, you had ample light.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 9:30 AM   #4
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Pretty dang nice IMHO. You could not have asked for much better timing.

The only minor issue I can see is the white on head seems to be a little blown out. Might be my monitor. As someone else on here told me, that is a hard bird to get right because of the range of color on it. I have started slightly under exposing Heron shots so I can keep the white in range but when they are moving, it is impossible (to me) to get it right with any consistency. I would be happy to have gotten that shot.
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"when using auto focus,
do you use continuous or single auto focus, or never use auto focus.

how do you keep those B's in the viewfinder (is a red dot sight required)

i guess AV is the best to get those shots but what shutter speed is good

if setting that aperture, do you go for large/small"


I never use continuous AF and 50% MF, which I find more reliable than AF, and MF isn't confused by other objects in the viewfinder such as grass and sticks.

I am most concerned with shutter speed than aperture with moving objects, so aperture falls where it does depending on the shutter speed.

Practice keeps the birds in the viewfinder, so get out and shoot as many flying birds as you can just for fun. Gulls are great practice of you are close to the shore and they are always there looking for food.

Unless you are using AF a Red Dot sight is of no value to you and I want to be looking through the viewfinder to see what my camera is doing anyway.

Tom
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 9:54 AM   #6
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Daniel, Thanks for the kind remark - Ronny
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Old Jan 26, 2007, 9:56 AM   #7
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Sgrathee Thanks ,

I'm not completely unhappy with the shot but I would have liked it sharper. Propably practice (and alot of luck)

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Thanks Tom

I'll take your advice and start harassing the gulls in my neighborhood to get some skills with the manual focus.

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 10:21 AM   #9
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ronnie, i can assure you that you will get many,many of these - almosts. this one is just a little OOF on the head, maybe camera shake also. when i go on a shoot for birds i wear out the delete key when i get home. tom is right

PRACTICE eventually you'll get more keepers..

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Old Jan 26, 2007, 12:29 PM   #10
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Thanks Tom

I'll take your advice and start harassing the gulls in my neighborhood to get some skills with the manual focus.

Ronny
MF is good to practice your skills on since it looks to me like in your Heron photo the AF grabbed the duck and log and placed the Heron in a slightly softer spot than it would have been if it had been the focus point.

You don't seem to have any problem keeping the moving bird in the viewfinder as your Heron shot is very nicely composed.

Good job.

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