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Old Mar 17, 2007, 9:25 AM   #1
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I really appreciate the Pentax K10D review. It is objective, balanced and well conceived. It is obvious from this review, that Steve understood the tool he was working with and as a result, gave us an opinion based on knowledge rather than "Commercial Interest".

Well done Steve and nice to see the the "Just" word was not employed.

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I really appreciate the Pentax K10D review. It is objective, balanced and well conceived. It is obvious from this review, that Steve understood the tool he was working with and as a result, gave us an opinion based on knowledge rather than "Commercial Interest".

Well done Steve and nice to see the the "Just" word was not employed.

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I read it twice and IMHO it is fair and enough information to satisfy most anybody. Looks like it was done by some body that took the time to understand the camera before jumping in with both feet.

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I do think there is one area Steve needs to qualify.

Number of photos in continuous shooting is SD Card dependant.

I have two 2GBPQI Cards rated at 150 times speed (I know there is no good standard)

I am getting 11 DNG Raw, 10 PEF RAW, And fill card with highest JPEG

I think, got to 50 and stopped.

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Number of photos in continuous shooting is SD Card dependant.
Yes, Steve should have used a faster card. What you want is a card capable of 20MB/s sustained write speed. The "60x" or "150x" only refers to read speed, and can have no relationship at all to the actual write speed.

If Steve has used a Exteme III card, he would have found burst speed of 9-10 frames PEF, 12-13 DNGs and continuous JPG without ever pausing (until the card is full).

He also got the Auto range part wrong. He described K100D's settings. For K10D, there is no limitation and you can set the Auto range at any ISO in 1/3 stops.


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All we need now is a proper review/comparison of the GX10.

Still not convinced that the GX10 is as good as the K10D.

K10D £589 body only with a one year warranty. Two firmaware upgrades, one of which adds wireless flash.

GX10 £599 with 2 kit lens and two year warranty. No firmware upgrades (none needed according to Samsung).


Most mags are of the opinion that you should buy the GX10 as it is the same but cheaper with a two year warranty. Only one mag, Amateur Photographer, has stated that the K10D may be worth the extra money if you want wireless flash etc.

Thoughts anyone?





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I do think there is one area Steve needs to qualify.

Number of photos in continuous shooting is SD Card dependant.
I noticed one other area that someone who doesn't live with the camera might even have to stumble across.... I know I did... even after at least scanning the entire 200+ page manual.

NO MENTION of the WHITE BALANCE robustness IN CAMERA.

Are the presets perfect...NO like most cameras.... BUT not only are there 3 custom presets BUT you can alter all the factory/lab presets (immutable in most cameras) individually to your tastes/conditions too. (Like Tungsten...and on most cameras... is preset for hot theater/studio lighting... not typical dim home type lighting... but mine is now.)

And while in his software bundle portion of the review did mention of Photo Lab doing RAW WB correction in visual real time....MADE NO MENTION that the camera itself does this even for JPEG via the LCD adjusting last shot to (again visual real time) WHATEVER you want for WB in any preset or custom setting for further shots. Somethng rather unique for the 10D also. And VERY usefull for wierd lighting.....

And allowed me to EASILY set a custom preset no camera has... a WB for "pink" street lights..... no hit and miss guessing... just real time visually dial it in and permanantly set it.... very cool.

PS If test shot done in AWB.... then just flipping through the presets and customs you can easily find the closest.... as again with each flip... the WB of the last image live changes accordingly.... nothing quite right then just in seconds alter the closest.
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Number of photos in continuous shooting is SD Card dependant.
Yes, Steve should have used a faster card. What you want is a card capable of 20MB/s sustained write speed. The "60x" or "150x" only refers to read speed, and can have no relationship at all to the actual write speed.

If Steve has used a Exteme III card, he would have found burst speed of 9-10 frames PEF, 12-13 DNGs and continuous JPG without ever pausing (until the card is full).

He also got the Auto range part wrong. He described K100D's settings. For K10D, there is no limitation and you can set the Auto range at any ISO in 1/3 stops.

Good to know, will have to try a faster SD card. Funny thing is that Pentax sent the Extreme II SDHC card with the camera so I figured that was what it needed to meet the published specs and was surprised when it didn't. I have added the following text to the conclusion just to clarify:

Feedback from our Forum readers indicate the K10D will perform as Pentax claimed when using the Extreme III SDHC or any SDHC card capable of 20MB/s sustained write speed.
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Steve, thanks for your willingness to be corrected.

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All we need now is a proper review/comparison of the GX10.

Still not convinced that the GX10 is as good as the K10D.

K10D £589 body only with a one year warranty. Two firmaware upgrades, one of which adds wireless flash.

GX10 £599 with 2 kit lens and two year warranty. No firmware upgrades (none needed according to Samsung).
Not to mention the first upgrade also added a bunch of new funtion wheels options and diversity in multiple modes.... SEVERAL of which I am using.
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