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Old Mar 25, 2007, 5:19 PM   #1
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I know that this issue has been discussed and discussed and discussed. But when I have printed out 1600 iso images on to A3+ format prints, I have seen none what so ever. Is VPN something that is more dominant on screen? It seems that when translated to print, it just isn't there.
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Old Mar 25, 2007, 7:10 PM   #2
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i've never seen it on the monitor here and never had a problem printing.

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Old Mar 25, 2007, 8:05 PM   #3
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I have seen it on a few shots with my K10D - however it was found when the subject was severly underexposed and I had to raise the "sensitivity" level to make the image presentable. I was an image of a person wearing a dark dark blue business jacket shot into a bright window. The exposure ended up being OK for outside not inside - the people are nearly silhouettes.

I also have seen it on my *ist Ds but it is horizontal. I was using ISO 3200 shooting the growing end of a pine tree. It is most visible on a LCD monitor - one that is cracked up a bit.

http://mysite.verizon.net/res0qjko/s...ures/nei-4.jpg

This version is not full size so the horizontal banding may not be as obvious.

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I've seen it on my K10 on certain monitors, even when I haven't pushed the picture, it's more obvious when I push it. I posted some examples here, and can see it on my monitor at home, but not on either the good or the lousy monitor at home. Come to think of it, I still haven't printed the picture to see if it really is a monitor thing. My solution is to not use 1600 much (I don't use it very often, and haven't tried it since the last firmware update). I still am not sure whether it's a real thing or not.
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I have seen it on a few shots with my K10D - however it was found when the subject was severly underexposed and I had to raise the "sensitivity" level to make the image presentable. I was an image of a person wearing a dark dark blue business jacket shot into a bright window. The exposure ended up being OK for outside not inside - the people are nearly silhouettes.

I also have seen it on my *ist Ds but it is horizontal. I was using ISO 3200 shooting the growing end of a pine tree. It is most visible on a LCD monitor - one that is cracked up a bit.

http://mysite.verizon.net/res0qjko/s...ures/nei-4.jpg

This version is not full size so the horizontal banding may not be as obvious.

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Beautiful image..I love the film look grain..No, can't see the banding..Sorry.

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Thanks for the positive comment. I shot this during one of my first digital walks around the neighborhood, when I looked at it on my laptop's monitor - I was sold on digital. I also like the "grain" in the image.

I have shown this image to quite a few people - most like it but the noise hunters (C*non guys for the most part) tell me different ways to "remove the noise - that Pentax must have issues eh?". They have no experience shooting Plus-X pushed to 400 or Tri-X pushed to 800 and higher. They prefer all of their subjects to look like porcelain statues, frozen in time - no blur - dead center in the frame with over saturated colors. On this shot the grain inherent at ISO 3200 works I wish it were random like film not in bands. Oh well - wait for the quantum state sensors - then I might feel like it is the good old days again.

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Thanks for the positive comment. I shot this during one of my first digital walks around the neighborhood, when I looked at it on my laptop's monitor - I was sold on digital. I also like the "grain" in the image.

I have shown this image to quite a few people - most like it but the noise hunters (C*non guys for the most part) tell me different ways to "remove the noise - that Pentax must have issues eh?". They have no experience shooting Plus-X pushed to 400 or Tri-X pushed to 800 and higher. They prefer all of their subjects to look like porcelain statues, frozen in time - no blur - dead center in the frame with over saturated colors. On this shot the grain inherent at ISO 3200 works I wish it were random like film not in bands. Oh well - wait for the quantum state sensors - then I might feel like it is the good old days again.

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Have you printed it out yet? I often shoot at 800 iso when I want "That Film Look"...Try using ADD GRAIN in PS sparingly to give it a bit more of a Fuji Film 1000 iso look.
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