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Old Apr 11, 2007, 8:15 PM   #21
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Can someone chime in as to what exactly "in-camera HDR" refers to for the k10d? And whether it works? Which thread is it that demonstrates the capability?
There is no "in-camera" HDR on the k10D - you can bracket exposures with the K10D in a much wider variety of ways than on most cams, but you still have to combine them later on the computer like usual...

The K10D does allow multiple exposure shots - which is a nice creative tool, a bit outdated by layering in photoshop, but still nice to have for the occasional shot. However, using this to doin-camera HDRs would be very difficult (though perhaps theoretically possible for some scenes??)...
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Old Apr 12, 2007, 11:15 AM   #22
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MORE info from PDML. K100d is faster AF-wise than previous cameras, one would assume this is also true for the k10d

AF speeds (was: Pentax glass) Adam Maas mykroft at mykroft.com
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The DL/DL2 doe have rather slow AF, the D and DS are faster, but the 
K100D is faster than the DS and more positive than the D.

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Old Apr 13, 2007, 1:44 AM   #23
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I hate to bump this thread again, but I hope at elast one other person is learning from it as much as I am. I have paraphrased an email I've received below:



Dynamic Range:

The DR is better for the K100D. Theoretically, the DR
is related to the pixel's physical size, the larger it
is, it'll be better. So, for the same APS-C sized CCD,
6M will have both better (less) noise and wider DR
than the 10M one.

Of course, other processing hardware and logic would
make a difference.

Practically, from what I can see, the K100D performs
slightly better for the shadows but both cameras are
close.

As for the ISO range, it is actually not much relevant
to the actual DR range which mean how many EV stops
you can get within a photo from shadows to highlights
without clipping both.

Focus speed:

K100D is focusing a little bit faster than the DL. The
K10D is focusing slightly faster than the K100D.

However, as for the AF sensitivity, all the three
cameras are similar (not of the MZ-S class). Also, [...]
the K100D's AF is more accurate
than that of DL.

Dust Reduction:

The DR system in the K10D has been proved to be
uselless by reviewer and different users. However, the
CCD of K100 and K10 are not "sticky" with dust
and thus an air blow will easily take the dust off
from the sensor surface.


There have been some recent price drops on K10d and k100d as well.
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Old Apr 13, 2007, 5:16 AM   #24
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Gazander wrote:
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I hate to bump this thread again, but I hope at elast one other person is learning from it as much as I am. I have paraphrased an email I've received below:



Dynamic Range:

The DR is better for the K100D. Theoretically, the DR
is related to the pixel's physical size, the larger it
is, it'll be better. So, for the same APS-C sized CCD,
6M will have both better (less) noise and wider DR
than the 10M one.

Dust Reduction:

The DR system in the K10D has been proved to be
uselless by reviewer and different users. However, the
CCD of K100 and K10 are not "sticky" with dust
and thus an air blow will easily take the dust off
from the sensor surface.
Well DR is also Generationally relative too..... The DR of my K10D is infinately better than my old Canon Rebel 300D 6MP (Noise too for that matter.. even though at the time CMOS supposedly had an edge over CCD at that point on that count.) And all things are relative.... Some how the extra crop lattitude, way over rules the little DR difference. (virtually 100% vs 100D.... a 45% crop of a 10D is STARTING point on a 100D) With a sharp image the 20x LCD review zoom is actually quite viewable, though maybe a bit grainy.

DR I still say BS to nay sayers (though far from best thing since sliced bread)....but I have yet to physically clean my 10D sensor, and successfully shaken it off a few times now when I have noticed something. Depends on the nature of the dust and how sticky it is. It probably also helps to do it regularly... andthough I do not use the setable at every powerup option. But see anything or not I'll do it once a week at least. And always on a particularly windy day when I couldn't shield a lens change well. Which is another aspect... (even if just suspected possible) getting it off ASAP vs letting it sit and bond.


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Old Apr 13, 2007, 5:51 AM   #25
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The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant.
Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't.

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If you can feel or hear the SR, then one has MISERABLE shooting skills. (And likely why complain about ineffectiveness)

The only time on 10D I EVER have is for Dust Removal where the sensor is SLAMMED against the top stop.

PS Gazander I know you were quoting someone else... the embedded code really messed up the quoting.

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If you can feel or hear the SR, then one has MISERABLE shooting skills. (And likely why complain about ineffectiveness)
I have the K100D and I've noticed that the SR does indeed make a faint whirring sound when active, though I only ever notice it in dead silence, and when doing long exposures like 1/4 second or longer. Also, when I press the shutter button, it makes a "clack" sound, followed by a "flick" sound. I guess I have very bad shooting skills.
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Well they say there are some differences between the 100D and 10D SR

I have never noticed any of that on the 10D, in fact I wish the switch were more positive locking, I sometimes manage to accidentally bump it off, and no sound/feel difference noted to make me realize it until I look at a low speed image , and realize OOPS or notice the missing VF icon.

The only time I hear it or feel it is during DR operation,

Though admitedly, rare it is in total silence, I am shooting... but still I don't feel it either.
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Doesn't Focus Speed also depends on lens? I know my Tamron 28-200mm sometime will hunt for life trying to focus.. I hope the new 16-45 im getting soon is faster =P
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Not so much daylight but yes in low light, lens gets very important, especialy good contrast charachterisics. (Which is how viruatlly all AF systems work off.)
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