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Old Aug 8, 2003, 12:33 AM   #1
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Default Pentax *istD is due in September

We have now posted complete specs and background info for the new *istD SLR from Pentax. Delivery in September!


http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pe...3_istd_pr.html




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Old Aug 8, 2003, 6:37 PM   #2
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> We have now posted complete specs ...

Well, almost complete.
There's that fairly significant spec of "price".
And what lens (if any) will be bundled?
Any clues?

Comments on the *istD:

Hideous name. Right up there with the VW Touareg.

USB 1.1 - you gotta be kidding. And I thought unloading
a 64MB digicam was tedious.

That the new lenses are optimized for the APS CCD
size suggests that Pentax won't be doing a full
35mm-size sensor any time soon.

Including huge images in posts makes the forum very
unfriendly to those of us beyond the reach of broadband.
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Old Aug 11, 2003, 2:50 PM   #3
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Well, a price is not a camera specification now is it ? Specifications are rock solid things and prices are moving targets and no smart company is going to pre-announce a price until delivery these days - gives them some wiggle room in case the competition cuts their prices at the last minute.

Yes, the name *istD is somewhat laughable. Who knows what it stands for but hey, you won't forget it, will you? Look how many people call a Canon 10D a "D10" by mistake.

As for the USB interface. Yes, putting USB 1.1 on a camera nowadays is rediculous but most people will use a $35 card reader instead so who cares. Only matters if they have tethered capture software for it like the Canon cameras.

Nobody is rushing to make a new full-frame dSLR. We don't need full-frame dSLR's. You only think you need one. The truth of the matter is that full-frame sensors exceed the capabilities of even the best film lenses. The Canon 1Ds proved that. It is better to create new lenses made for the image sensors. APS size sensors do a wonderful job, ask anybody with a D60, 10D, D100, D1X, etc... That and the Canon 1Ds is a veritable "tank" when combined with a Canon "L" lens, I don't care to have to tote that much weight around all day. Smaller, lighter dSLRs with newly designed digital lenses makes a lot of sense.

And what do you mean by a "huge image" in the post? My picture of the *ist D above? That image isn't very big and should not take long even for a dialup 56K user.

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> Well, a price is not a camera specification now is it ?

Does your NDA not even allow you to speculate?

I expect to buy a 6Mp digicam or SLR later this year, and
am just trying to get a sense of the price trend.

> Yes, the name *istD is somewhat laughable. ...
> ...you won't forget it, will you?


There are people who won't buy a product if the name
intimidates them, perhaps because they don't know how
to pronounce it, or think the product name will embarass
them. If I cared about impressing people (and I don't), I'd
think twice about buying a product with a goofy name. I
don't care about the name personally, but if I think the
name will impair market acceptance of the cam, I'll think
twice about investing it. Pentax needs to think (twice)
about that.

> Yes, putting USB 1.1 on a camera nowadays is
> ridiculous but most people will use a ... card reader ...


I worked on a product two years ago where we were
quite concerned that we couldn't go out with USB 2.0,
due to a chip bug. We'd get it eventually, but market
perception was a concern.

I'm looking at this USB 1.1 cam and wondering "what
were they thinking?". Just another thing that bumps
this camera down on my list of candidates.

> Nobody is rushing to make a new full-frame dSLR.
> ... You only think you need one.


Agreed. I was just pointing out the subtext of the Pentax
lens announcement. If 35mm silver halide had a future,
being able to use the same lenses on new digis and new
35's, with no focal-length fudging, would make some
sense. But film is dead. I haven't used my Canon A-1
gear in two years. It all goes on eBay next Sunday.

> APS size sensors do a wonderful job, ...

Now that it no longer matters, APS finally wins! :shock:

> That image isn't very big and should not take long
> even for a dialup 56K user.


28K usually. Have never seen over 38K here.
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Old Aug 12, 2003, 9:31 AM   #5
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Email from Pentax USA today says:

Initial pricing as follows: $1699.95 for the *istD body and $1899.95 for the body plus the 18-35mm lens.

That puts it just a tad higher than the Canon 10D and about the same as current D100 pricing.

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[quote="steve"]We don't need full-frame dSLR's. You only think you need one. The truth of the matter is that full-frame sensors exceed the capabilities of even the best film lenses.

You can do more with chip size than increase pixel count. Increasing the size of individual sensors improves the signal to noise ratio. Personally, a camera that was noiselss at ISO 1600 wouldn't be any too fast for me.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve
Email from Pentax USA today says:

Initial pricing as follows: $1699.95 for the *istD body and $1899.95 for the body plus the 18-35mm lens.

That puts it just a tad higher than the Canon 10D and about the same as current D100 pricing.

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It's probably retail for less... people liked to think they are a getting a bargain from the MSRP... I can see the SALE sign already!

Maybe the body plus the 18-35mm lens for the same price as the Canon 10D and then you can get your '4/3 wannanbee' in the *istD :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Old Aug 23, 2003, 10:00 PM   #8
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When any new digital model is announced I seem to have trouble finding one bit of information that means a lot to me. Will this camera adapt gracefully to optics other than its own? I'm talking about shooting through a microscope, telescope, adapted old lenses I might happen to have or whatever. This would seem a minor matter but some cameras include 'features' making the meter useless unless used with the supplied lens. Some fixed lens models work well with microscopes while others have 'eye relief' problems. I hope Pentax remembered that Screw mount lenses could become K Mount lenses with adapters and a few of us might have a desire to shoot something using that microscope or 12 inches of bellows, tubes and process/enlarging lenses. A review including such information pointing out what the company did to make the camera incompatable with their earlier equipment (like Nikon) would be helpful. Thanks.
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