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Old Sep 25, 2007, 7:59 AM   #11
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I was thinking rather the same thing as Kjell. The second picture is a better depiction of the subject, the saddle (looks likea lovely, comfortable one), but there's something about the photograph (not the subject) that isn't as pleasing to me. Is it the lighting that gives the picture a rather flat color tone? Or too much background? Or something else I can't put my finger on? If the second one had the photo quality of the first one it would be awesome - I can see why the first one caught your eye and why you posted it in the first place.
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Old Sep 25, 2007, 1:53 PM   #12
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Wow...that is a NICE saddle! what craftsmenship. Roger, that's a nicer shot of it but IMHO, the background is a little distracting. I don't know...maybe crop it down a bit. But the full saddle is the way to go.
Your right IMHO I need to take out the background or something.


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Old Sep 25, 2007, 1:53 PM   #13
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IMO, as a depict of a saddle #2 is better, but #1 wins as a piece of art. Colour and sepia both work well.

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Thanks for the look Kjell and for taking the time to comment.


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Old Sep 25, 2007, 1:54 PM   #14
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I was thinking rather the same thing as Kjell. The second picture is a better depiction of the subject, the saddle (looks likea lovely, comfortable one), but there's something about the photograph (not the subject) that isn't as pleasing to me. Is it the lighting that gives the picture a rather flat color tone? Or too much background? Or something else I can't put my finger on? If the second one had the photo quality of the first one it would be awesome - I can see why the first one caught your eye and why you posted it in the first place.
mtngal thanks for the helpful comment and for taking the time to look.


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Old Sep 25, 2007, 2:06 PM   #15
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Maybe a vertical showing more of the saddle and its attachments below the seat would help - it just looks incomplete as it is, emphasizing only the seat and pommel.
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Maybe a vertical showing more of the saddle and its attachments below the seat would help - it just looks incomplete as it is, emphasizing only the seat and pommel.
The good news is the next time I have lots of new ideas to try.



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Old Sep 26, 2007, 7:03 AM   #17
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i will admit to not being a horse person
and have never looked closely at a saddle
so these photos are a bit of a treat

the sepia stands out the best i feel
especially the rope
that is very nice detail

the black and white is flat (i looked at the histogram) but can be improved if you want
if you just desaturated it that would be why it is flat
i can show you my attempt if you wish?

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i will admit to not being a horse person
and have never looked closely at a saddle
so these photos are a bit of a treat

the sepia stands out the best i feel
especially the rope
that is very nice detail

the black and white is flat (i looked at the histogram) but can be improved if you want
if you just desaturated it that would be why it is flat
i can show you my attempt if you wish?
YES!! please do show it. I am trying to learn so any help or suggestions is appriciated.


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Old Sep 26, 2007, 5:31 PM   #19
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the aim of black and white is to have a full range of tones from black to white
and keep details in the shadows and highlights
the hard bit is converting colours to shades of grey so that they dont all end up similar shades
there are heaps of ways to do it
with this i used your colour photo and took out the blue channel
i did a second image that had only the "L" channel (this one had the most detail in it)
and merged them together using overlay
then added a black to clear gradient at the topp
this likely isnt the best way to do it either lol
its just how i did it



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Old Sep 26, 2007, 5:57 PM   #20
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the aim of black and white is to have a full range of tones from black to white
and keep details in the shadows and highlights
the hard bit is converting colours to shades of grey so that they dont all end up similar shades
there are heaps of ways to do it
with this i used your colour photo and took out the blue channel
i did a second image that had only the "L" channel (this one had the most detail in it)
and merged them together using overlay
then added a black to clear gradient at the topp
this likely isnt the best way to do it either lol
its just how i did it


Gumnut that is beautiful. When you know what your doing you get good results.

thanks

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