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Old Mar 7, 2008, 2:45 PM   #11
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Hi Roy,

I don't think that I took your comments the wrong way -- Sorry if I sounded defensive in my answer -- The hawk shots were some of the first with the K20 in a "real-life" birding situation, and I was just going through the list of excuses I made to myself for them not turning out as well as I would have liked -- lessons leaned --but I thought them easily good enough to post. . . especially since I've had such bad luck getting any raptor shots in the past.

It took quite a while for me to get comfortable with the K10 after the DS. Working with the K20 is a similar experience for me, despite the K20's functional similarities to the K10. It's going to take me a while before I sort out all the in-camera settings and the PP workflow.

Remember that I am mainly a jpeg shooter, so the right settings are a bit more important to me, and with the new sensor, PP is a process of discovering what might work best. I try not to rely on the same old workflow, and am discovering some new ways to get more out of the image files that I'm getting now with the K20.

I just took four garbage shots of the same subject in jpeg ***, jpeg ****, PEF, and DNG, and the file sizes came out like this.

Jpeg *** = 6,260,600
Jpeg **** = 11,152,748
PEF = 13,542,137
DNG = 24,044,349

I've been shooting mostly in Jpeg ***. The file sizes from yesterday (about 165 shots) ranged from @ 5.9MB to 7.7MB (the number of shots that were not in the 6.xxMP range were very few), with a guesstimate average of @ 6.6MB, so I'd say that the average RAW sizes for the type of things I shoot would be a bit larger than the sample shots.

I've done some test shots comparing Jpeg *** and ****, and I don't see any practical difference between them, so the higher compression *** quality will probably end up being my default (I'll decide after some more actual situation testing).

I can see some compression artifacts in the ** and especially the * Jpegs, so I'll not use them -- I'd rather use 10MP or even 6MP modes at lower compression if I was running out of memory, and needed to squeeze a lot more shots out of a card.

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Old Mar 7, 2008, 3:11 PM   #12
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You don't know how much you are making my mouth water for a K20.¬* I know - so much of it depends on the lens and your combination is outstanding.¬* The other major factor is the photographer and his steady hands - sometimes I think you are supernatural with your abilities to handhold a camera with a long lens like this.¬* I keep trying to tell myself that when I look at your pictures but it doesn't help at all!¬* These are excellent!
Hi Harriet,

Thanks!

I hope you realize that drooling is not usually considered a good look! :-)

I'm still in the process of shaking off the rust that's accumulated over the winter, so I'm confident that the images will get better as time goes on. There's a lot more to work with in the K20, so it'll take a bit of time before I get things sorted out. I'm really having fun with the learning process though, and have some really good expectations for when the migratory species start showing up later this month.

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Old Mar 7, 2008, 3:19 PM   #13
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Scott, what d'ya mean a "fluke?"¬* You went out to take pictures and you were prepared when the moment came.¬* I can see what you mean about being lucky to find a raptor at a gas station, but it wasn't luck that had you bring your camera with you or have it ready to go with the 300mm lens on it.¬* In this case I would say you made your own luck!¬* And then to top it off you took advantage of the situation and got some¬*really nice shots.¬* Not a lot of "flukiness" in that series!
Hi Glenn,

Thanks for your comments!

I've had such little success getting raptor shots that I have to consider any opportunities something of a fluke.
I've gone out countless times with the intent of shooting the hawks and falcons that I've seen while driving around, and have almost universally come up empty-handed. Hopefully, this is an indication that my luck is changing --

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Magnificent shots Scott,

I'm still trying to get a good shot of raptors in the wild. But somehow I never get close enough, or I only see them when I'm without camera.

Great work,

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