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Old Mar 30, 2008, 1:43 PM   #1
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Hi All,

Since I've gotten my monitor problem resolved, I've been going over a whole lot of shots that I couldn't PP properly, so wouldn't post.

These were taken with the K20 and Tokina 80-400 f4.5-5.6 AT-X AF2, a lens that I've had for over 2 years, but not used that much since I was fortunate enough to be able to get an A*300/4 and an FA*300/4.5 within a month of getting the Tok. The 80-400 is a good lens, but directly compare it to either of these *300 primes, and it just doesn't stand up -- not really a knock on the Tok -- it's because the *300s are just that good. . .

Anyway, the 80-400 is generally accepted as being a bit soft past 300mm, is not the fastest focusing AF lens around, and CA and PF can be a problem. To the plus side, it's the smallest and lightest xx-400/5.6 zoom around, has Tokina AT-X's typical robust build quality, and with a max aperture range of f4.5-5.6, it's pretty fast, especially considering the 5x zoom range.

But I digress -- on to the pics

At 360mm:


At 400mm:


And a couple of BIF using AF-C



. . .and no, I don't know what that thing is below the gull -- I do know that it didn't fall on me:-)



I could be wrong, but I think that AF-C is a bit improved in the K20 -- I've been notoriously bad at BIF before. . .
but got 5 keepers out of 10 trys in this set -- I'll try it some more when I get the chance. Remember, the 80-400 is a pretty slow focuser. . . I think this bodes well --

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Old Mar 30, 2008, 1:59 PM   #2
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Nice ones Scott. I especially like Nos. 2 and 5. Were these taken near Lake Michigan?

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Great shots, Jay. I like 'em all, but I like the sparrow best because he just looks happy to be alive!

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Hi Jay and Glenn,

Thanks for taking a look, and the comments.

Jay -- I don't get very close to the "big" Lake very often anymore. I live in the Nortwest Suburbs about 20 miles in from the shore, and about 35 miles from the center of the city. I do live in a relatively low population density unincorportated area that's actually more forest preserve than city, and there are three largish lakes within walking distance. The gulls are everywhere though -- many hang around in the parking lots of the larger strip malls where there's a resaurant or large grocery store.

Glenn -- I like the sparrow also, but mainly for the background. That splash of blue-green makes a nice color contrast. He does look happy tho. . .probably thinks spring's coming -- but me, I'm not all that sure. . . :roll:

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Nice BIF's Scott. I keep hearing the K20 is better in AFC.

I haven't had the K10 that long and I am still getting my act together with it. Seeing the Hi ISO results and the AFC improvements make it extremely interesting but i think I'll wait for a bit yet. Your results and the other examples I've seen make it hard though.

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Wonderful shots! I like the sparrow and the last two gulls - the lighting is really neat. Very encouraging for me to see these pictures.
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Very nicely done Scott!

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snostorm wrote:
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These were taken with the K20 and Tokina 80-400 f4.5-5.6 AT-X AF2, a lens that I've had for over 2 years, but not used that much since I was fortunate enough to be able to get an A*300/4 and an FA*300/4.5 within a month of getting the Tok. The 80-400 is a good lens, but directly compare it to either of these *300 primes, and it just doesn't stand up -- not really a knock on the Tok -- it's because the *300s are just that good. . .

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I am surprised that you could do AF so well with the K20D and the much neglected Tak zoom.
That is a good selling point of the K20D. Very very tempting

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I just love the last one, for every reason. I tried it a bit with PSE3 to see if there was any point in brightening it a tad, to underline it's etheriality. I don't know, what do you think Scott?

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I just love the last one, for every reason. I tried it a bit with PSE3 to see if there was any point in brightening it a tad, to underline it's etheriality. I don't know, what do you think Scott?
Hi Kjell,

I like it.

I think I tend to underdo things when it comes to contrast, saturation, and brightness. I think it's because I have to overstate all these qualities + sharpness when I PP for printing, especially for my matte proofs, and they just look so over the top on the monitor that I go too far the other way for posting. . . I'll keep that in mind. . .

. . .so when do we get to see some of those dancing cranes with the new K20. I'm thinking that even pretty extreme crops should be impressive.

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