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Old Aug 4, 2008, 4:37 PM   #21
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Old Aug 4, 2008, 4:41 PM   #22
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Did not see went to pg2, sorry
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Old Aug 4, 2008, 4:43 PM   #23
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I don't know if you ar e familiar with this site but it is definitely worth a look.

http://photozone.de/

All the lenses you are considering are tested here. Impartial and thorough.

Dennis
Thanks Dennis, that is where I have been getting most of my information so far.

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Old Aug 4, 2008, 4:46 PM   #24
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The 12-24mm is still on my list, I currently have a bid on a DA 14mm that is quite low, if it doesn't make it I will get the DA 12-24mm since I have found a source in Canada that sells for $615, considerably less than expected.

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Old Aug 4, 2008, 10:29 PM   #25
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i use the 10-17 fisheye a lot now that i have it
i didnt think i would use it as much as i do

it is a fun lens and gives some unusual photos
but i find it really good for landscapes
heres a few

http://www.johndolphin.net/photos/de...?image_id=3281

http://www.johndolphin.net/photos/de...?image_id=3280

http://www.johndolphin.net/photos/de...?image_id=3278

these were cropped a bit

http://www.johndolphin.net/photos/de...?image_id=3284

http://www.johndolphin.net/photos/de...?image_id=3296

i really like the depth of field and that you can almost use it for macro

good luck in your quest
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Old Aug 5, 2008, 12:39 AM   #26
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That's probably a better price range for it. I just have a problem with the fact it cost me almost as much as my 77 Ltd and DA*50-135. If it's $100 or more less, then it becomes much more worth-while.
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Old Aug 5, 2008, 12:22 PM   #27
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Ira,

I HIGHLY recommend the Sigma 10-20mm.

Get your butt down to your local camera store and slip one on your camera and have a few shots in the shop... you won't be dissapointed.

I love mine.

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Old Aug 5, 2008, 10:13 PM   #28
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Ira,
I own the Sigma 10-20 and couldn't be happier. I have had very good luck with Sigmas (I got one of the good 24-135 copies), and based on that, now own the 17-70, the 10-20, and the 70-300. I have found the build quality satisfactory, and the opticals extremely good on all of them.

I'm not quite sure which of the many pics I have taken with to post as examples, so will take the easy way out and refer you to my website:

http://www.markdukephoto.com

Many of the shots in Europe, and quite a few of the Utah/4 Corners area shots were taken with the 10-20. After processing, the exif is removed from some, but there are enough there when viewed with the photo info tab clicked that you can see. I think a couple of the Venice, Italy shots are quite indicative (in the Mediterranean folder) of the quality. Most have been taken with my K10, but a number also with my DS.

I don't envy you having to make the choice, but don't fret too much. I think all of the lenses you are considering will make you proud, and after seeing many of your postings know that you have an excellent eye and great talent. For me, I found the extra 6-8mm width a lot more useful than I thought. All the best in your decision.
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Old Aug 6, 2008, 8:03 AM   #29
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Thank you all very much for your input, and lots of inspiring wide angle samples. Economics (and my preference for prime lenses) has resulted in my purchasing a DA 14mm f2.8 (at over $200 less than the normal price). I am still very interested in an even wider lens but that can wait for next summer (that Sigma 10-20mm looks like a great lens).

Thanks again, I hope I can achieve results with this new lens that will match the results some of you have posted here.

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Old Aug 6, 2008, 10:57 AM   #30
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Looking forwards to seeing what you get with that 14 mm, now that you for once follow in my footsteps and have become a prime lens snob.

I've been thinking of that lens myself.

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