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Old Sep 23, 2008, 7:40 PM   #1
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Greetings,

I am in the process of trimming my gears from PentaxForums and I want to gather inputs for logical choices of trimming.

I have three similar lens and I like them all and I am trying to decide to cut 1 to 2 out of the three
  • Pentax DA 50-200 f/4.0-5.6[/*]
  • Penatx K 45-125 f/4.0
    • http://techtheman.blogspot.com/2008/...est-shots.html
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    • This is a rare find for K mount lens. I can roughly get back $120 to $150 for the lens[/*]
    • It has the best color among the three but it is very heavy like a DA* 50-135 and I call it the poor man's choice of DA* zoom[/*]
    • It has one touch zoom design with fast focusing and zooming ability[/*]
    • The lens is front heavy and zoom ring tends to fall towards the front

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  • Kiron 70-150 f/3.8
    • http://techtheman.blogspot.com/2008/...est-shots.html
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    • I probably get back $40 to $80, I plan to add a 2x TC
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    • It is well built and the cutest among the three for its small size. All metal build and it is a great bargain from Kiron.
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    • It is very sharp, the sharpness is better than DA 50-200 but I can't tell if it is in par with K 45-125. In terms of color and contrast, the two Pentax does better.

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  • My camera gear for reference[/*]
Your inputs can help me to firm up my mind.
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Old Sep 23, 2008, 9:00 PM   #2
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Hin..I'd probably get rid of the Kiron.

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Old Sep 24, 2008, 10:52 AM   #3
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I'd get rid of the one you use the least, regardless of the money involved, or the characteristics of the lens.
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Old Sep 24, 2008, 12:36 PM   #4
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hinioman wrote:
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  • Pentax DA 50-200 f/4.0-5.6[/*]
    • I use this most often[/*]

To me this says exactly which one you should keep.
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Old Sep 24, 2008, 4:01 PM   #5
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Thank you all for talking the most senses to me.

I am planning to trim the Kiron 70-150 f/3.8. That is quite a metal lens well constructed by Kiron and it shines in the sharpness. Not in the color though as it has a tendency to go blue in the picture for some reason.

And for the rest of the two, I will push myself into using the K 45-125 for more outings and see if I can cope with having only one. The K 45-125 is a rare lens but it become useless if I leave it as gear collecting item.

LBA has strike me into 4th similar lens with a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f/3.5 from Tokina as the version 2. Most people sought afre the version 3 but I look for version 1 and 2 for the cheaper cost. I already tried version 1, it is great in terms of color and contrast, very sharp wide open but I can't stand the weight at 879g and subsequently sold it. I am waiting for delivery of the version #2 from Tokina that weighs 710g today.

http://techtheman.blogspot.com/2008/...rom-kiron.html

With the Vivitar series 1 70-210 f/3.5 from Tokina, it is a balancing act to find out what I like the most among the four lens. What an headache I get myself into.... Yes, I know that I can get the DA* 50-135 and be done with the buying. The four lens cost me less than half of the DA* zoom. The problem is more psychological that I can't get myself to act on expensive gear. I end up buying all the cheaper gear which all seemingly do a good job and I have a more difficult time to let go.
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Old Sep 24, 2008, 4:57 PM   #6
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hinioman wrote:
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I use this most often

Hi there,

I am with ishino here, although I understand your love for the other lenses. As for the Pentax 45-125... ask yourself the question, if there was asituation, where you absolutely need(ed) that lens to take a good picture or if the DA 50-200 would have done equally well. Color reproduction is a good point, bokeh and overall IQ too, granted. But a lense for one shooting a year?

I wouldn't give away my K 135/2.5 for a reason, but thats just me an my low light preference, so if the 45-125 would have something like f/2.8-3.5 or better I would keep it, with the current speccs it's really worth to ask yourself the question if you really need it.

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Old Sep 24, 2008, 7:00 PM   #7
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I have owned all three of these over the past 20 years. Keep the 50-200 Hands down. During the 80's & 90's I owned 19 Pentax lenses-bought most of them used through KEH. Only one I regret selling - a SMC-A 50mm 2.8 macro which was a gem. Only you can determine the personal worth of each lens. Good luck
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Old Sep 25, 2008, 5:41 PM   #8
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I have owned all three of these over the past 20 years. Keep the 50-200 Hands down. During the 80's & 90's I owned 19 Pentax lenses-bought most of them used through KEH. Only one I regret selling - a SMC-A 50mm 2.8 macro which was a gem. Only you can determine the personal worth of each lens. Good luck
Thanks for the reminder about the Pentax A 50mm f/2.8 1:2 Macro.

A side question to you and others, if I save enough to get the DA 35mm f/2.8 1:1 Macro limited, would the 35mm do a better job than the 50mm. I already have Pentax FA 50 f/1.4, which I love dearly as my Sushi Lens and Pizza lens and in my planning, I plan to add either the DA 35mm f/2.8 as a normal walkaround prime with good macro capability for those close up shots. I am trying hard not to have duplicate lens with similar characteristics. Would you advice if the DA 35mm can safely replace the A 50mm f/2.8 1:2 Macro? Or you see them as two very different lens worth keeping. I find the A 50mm f/2.8 1:2 Macro very sharp and it has quite a strong point in its bokeh and it works well in manual focusing with almost a full turn for those fine tuning in focus precision. It is one of those charming lens that I may regret letting go.

It is a balancing act not to rush into selling but I want to have the minimalist approach to lens. If one lens can replace 70% in the functionality of an existing lens and does better in some other aspects, I will let the exiisting gear to go to someone's else home. When I buy the DA 35, my A 50mm f/2.8 may need to go.

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Old Sep 25, 2008, 5:47 PM   #9
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Thank you all for the comments and suggestions. I have decided to take some time not to rush into trimming any lens. I would take time to take 1 to 2 weekend per lens to have a good workout. I have learned about my lessons:

What I have learned:
  • Think twice about buying lens of similar focal range. Ask yourself if the new one is a replacement or something that you expect better in the newer gear.
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  • Follow up with testing to find the winner and trim the loser[/*]
  • Have an exit plan if new lens don't match up with expectations.
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  • Have another exit plan if you like both just as much -- toss the coin, ask others for ideas or sleep on it.
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  • Access risk of in-decision in trimming[/*]
  • Don't rush into selling, take the time to rate each lens with use and do comparison for my own liking[/*]
  • For the least used gear, it is time to take it out and test it out again as a brand new gear. It is like a new gear old stock to be debuted with pictures[/*]
And I just received my Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f/3.5 made by Tokina. I have my hands full with 4 lens instead of 3. What have I done! Hopefully, I would have fun testing each lens to finer detail and cut 4 into 2 at a minimal. Ideally, I want to get down to 1 of the 4. My DA 50-200 has the win at the moment as it is not the best out of the 4 but I like it personally as my best value zoom for walkaround.

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Old Sep 26, 2008, 2:35 PM   #10
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Here is a picture of the four lens that I need to pick 2-3 to go. And I just get a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f/3.5, the version #2 from Tokina among the three versions that Mark Robert recommended. the lens is a beauty to hold and it will complicate the decision a bit more if not less.

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[/align][align=center]Vivitar Series 1 70-210 f/3.5 (tokina), Pentax K 45-125 f/4.0, Kiron 70-150 f/3.8, Pentax DA 50-200 f/4.0-5.6




[/align]I will hopefully keep an open mind and test each one of them and see if at least I can trim 4 down to 2. My goal is fill the gap from 50 to 200 with ease of use, great color and sharp photos especially for my boys. And I like to have a lighter gear for street photos that I can count on with a long focal range.

And the first candidate to see if I can trim first is on the Kiron 70-150 f/3.8. It is very cute and relatively small, I find it the best for sharpness and street shooting. I like it better for street shooting than the DA 50-200 in terms of sharpness. Very compact too

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Kiron 70-150 f/3.8, Pentax DA 50-200 f/4.0-5.6

[/align][align=left]And I wrote up this blog post to track my decision into the triming. Thank you all for the comments, suggestions and inputs

[/align][align=center]http://techtheman.blogspot.com/2008/...25-50-200.html
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