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Old Jun 16, 2009, 6:18 PM   #11
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So true... that flipin business is a real bear.
I had someone do that to me once and I haven't been the same since!
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Old Jun 16, 2009, 6:31 PM   #12
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It reminds me of Audrey II in Little Shop of Horrors.
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Old Jun 16, 2009, 6:46 PM   #13
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So true... that flipin business is a real bear.
I had someone do that to me once and I haven't been the same since!
Now that's what I call a flip remark.
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Old Jun 16, 2009, 9:49 PM   #14
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Now I have a question for you, Penolta. Since I'm absolutely clueless about anything having to do with biology - what's the difference between a succulent and a cactus? Do you ever find them together in the wild, or only in gardens? I've always gone with the idea that if it has "teeth" it's a cactus.

I'll not flip this one, I'll leave it alone. And now I understand better what you were getting at, Mark. Composition is often like a foreign language for me, its the one part of photography I constantly struggle with.
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Old Jun 17, 2009, 6:36 AM   #15
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But your "struggles" sure do pay off in some great photos! The first one is especially well-composed, and amazing clear in all the details.
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Old Jun 17, 2009, 12:33 PM   #16
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Now I have a question for you, Penolta. Since I'm absolutely clueless about anything having to do with biology - what's the difference between a succulent and a cactus? Do you ever find them together in the wild, or only in gardens? I've always gone with the idea that if it has "teeth" it's a cactus.
Cacti have spines, not teeth, and usually in clusters. They occur only in the New World and some can be quite large. Succulents are fleshy, usually low growing, and occur in both Old and New Worlds; their fleshy leaves often grow in spirals. Cacti typically have no leaves, only stems which are usually erect (either single or in clusters). There are many and varied types of each. Neither are restricted to deserts and can occur together, but cacti are better able to survive in the driest deserts. Succulents are also found along the seashore, where the salt environment is a physiological desert, requiring similar water conserving adaptations.
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Now that's what I call a flip remark.
I just read your comeback and busted out laughing! my wife turned around and gave me the strangest look...
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Old Jun 17, 2009, 8:04 PM   #18
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These are nice, Harriet. I really like the first one. The second one had me taking a second look. I couldn't figure out what you were trying to photograph. Assumed it was the fact that the spines went down the backside as well as along the edges.

We certainly learn the strangest things here. I had no idea there was a difference between cacti and succulents. Now, if I will just remember what the differences were in the future.

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Ok, that makes sense.

A cactus has spines and a stem, no leaves. Like this (thought the bloom was interesting).
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But what about if they have leaves AND spines? This was labeled as a Madagascar Ocotillo (it had a label).

P.S. Uploading directly here was sort-of an experiment. I've been playing around with geotagging pictures. Zenfolio seems to strips out metadata that they don't recognize or something - it strips the GPS coordinates out of the file. This picture has the exif information intact, and the exif program I use shows it. That's nice to know.
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