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Old Jan 4, 2010, 5:49 AM   #11
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Noiseware free edition. It has various levels of reduction, but be aware that it strips EXIF information out of the photo.
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Old Jan 5, 2010, 10:07 PM   #12
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pboerger, Thank you, tween Noiseware and NeatImage I'll see which one fits me the best. (I thought you were using the term "Noiseware" as a generic reference, not knowing that it was a Brand Name)
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Old Jan 5, 2010, 10:41 PM   #13
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I've tried neat image and really liked it (should have bought a mac license when I switched platforms). I've also used Noise Ninja and couldn't get along with it. I've seen other people get good results from it, but I never managed to figure it out. I'm now using Topaz Lab's DeNoise and like it the best of what I've tried. It's not free and it's only a Photoshop plug-in, but I get along with it and like the results. You can download a free trial to see what it's like also.
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I also use Topaz depending on the noise. Both are valuable.

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However, when you make as statement like "isn't this amazing" then you are asking us to evaluate the image quality at a technical level. therefore, also attaching a 100% crop would also be useful.
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Yes, everything looks great that size However, there are tons of Kx samples available on the web (such as Imaging-Resources). Kx performs just as well as other cameras with the Sony's 12 MP CMOS sensor (D90, D5000, A500, A700, D300, D300s). It's well known to be among the best for high ISO for at least 2 years (since D300 in 2007)
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Yes, everything looks great that size However, there are tons of Kx samples available on the web (such as Imaging-Resources). Kx performs just as well as other cameras with the Sony's 12 MP CMOS sensor (D90, D5000, A500, A700, D300, D300s). It's well known to be among the best for high ISO for at least 2 years (since D300 in 2007)
i didn't say it wasn't a good performer, it is a very good performer at high iso. right now it is the best high iso performer in its class.

but this is at iso 12800!!, and posting some very small webpic and saying its great without showing the real story can be misleading for those that aren't aware of this. i just want ppl to be informed that iso 12800 is not going to look good on anything above this size picture and it really is just an emergency setting if there is no other way to get a pic, and you only want to present it as a web-image. i just don't want ppl take a look at this, set their camera to 12800 and then be disappointed.
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I have heard people claim that Kx is the best high iso performer in its class, but looking at Imaging-resource photos titled "still-life," I would say there is no evidence for that assertion. I don't see an iota of better performance by Kx than A500, and overall D90 and D5000 have best jpegs (look at the red fabric at ISO 1600).
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i disagree. i prefer the detail retention of the k-x over the nikons more aggressive noise reduction.

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http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxkx/page15.asp
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to be fair, the real world difference between the pentax, canon, and nikon is almost nothing. you would have to print HUGE to see any difference at all.
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i disagree. i prefer the detail retention of the k-x over the nikons more aggressive noise reduction.

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http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxkx/page15.asp
That's one example with one small stamp image on one site. Look at IR images and Kx has identical performance to Sony A500 (both better than Canon). But D90 and D5000 do better with default jpeg

(the following were posted to DPR forum but these are 100% IR images).

ISO 1600 Left D90, right Kx



ISO 6400 Left D90, right Kx



ISO 6400 Left D90, right Kx


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