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Old Jan 8, 2010, 2:44 AM   #1
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i know its been a bit chilly in the northern hemisphere so i thought these may warm you up.
I initially went down the beach to photograph windsurfers, but as there were non around i went a bit further down the coast to Scarborough beach and found some kite surfers, after trying to photograph from the safety of the carpark i ventured down to the beach, and it was a lot windier down there
plus i found i was shooting almost straight into the sun
these are a few of the photos i got, using the 300m f4 DA* lens




i tried lightening this one to get some detail into what initially was a silhouette


my favourite for the day

i took tons of photos but only a few turned out
i think i need more practise
there are a few others on my site
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the windsurfing ones are old ones
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Old Jan 8, 2010, 4:12 AM   #2
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Hi John,

It's a tough sport to shoot for sure as both the water and sky will mess up the metering making the subjects under exposed.

I like the first the best and would have loved to have seen the kite surfer nearer the left side which would have given them room to move into the frame. The water makes a great background to that shot.

If you get out to shoot again I would either use aperture priority with positive exposure compensation of about 1 stop or better still shoot in manual and expose for the skin or the riders.

I've shot a bit of kitesurfing with a couple of people on the tour and I can tell you it is easier if you are working with someone who knows you are shooting them so they will ride closer in.

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Old Jan 8, 2010, 9:21 AM   #3
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Hey John,
I think you did good for your first try, the second time I do anything I always do better.

Mark, I missed that post because I didn't join till 08, those are right on!


I just realized... John is the poster, Mark is the first reply and my name is John Mark...
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Old Jan 8, 2010, 9:24 AM   #4
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Thanks John Mark I also think I could do a lot better now as I've got more skills, that's the beauty of this game, you always have something to learn!

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Old Jan 8, 2010, 6:21 PM   #5
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thanks for the comments guys
i tried a few shooting modes, some by accident ooops, to see what worked best
i agree aperture priority worked best
i did underexpose a bit but i didnt want to blow out the water, hence the dark people
at one stage the speed maxed out a 4000th of a second, it was very bright conditions (middle of summer here) to the point my eye looking though the viewfinder ached lol
i did think of going closer, but was wary of getting in the way, there were a lot of people and kites going up and down the beach, plus the wind was up and the spray and sand were both blowing so i chickened out (i guess kite surfing with out wind is hard)
it isnt far to go at least and i can have another bash one day, maybe a cloudy day would be better
i took a look at yours and i can see that closer is better (i couldnt see sometimes what i was looking at due the the distance and contrast)
also having kite surfers that know what they are doing helps too i am guessing that all the ones i was watching were amateurs that just liked going out to sea and back, there wasnt much jumping etc, although a lot of falling went on lol
thanks for the tips, and the excellent examples

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great shots. I really like the colors of the water in that last one.

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thanks Glenn
the water was a great colour with the sun shining through it
this was the best shot I got I think
you can see how dark the figure is though (legs and face)
if i had tried to lighten it the water would of gone an odd colour
like the one above it that i did play with
the water went milk blue
i guess i should of dodged and burned like in the old dark room days
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John, for sports shooting your subject is key and the surroundings are less so. It doesn't matter if the water is blown out and there is some loss of detail in that as long as the subject is clear. It does initially go against what people think that the whole scene should be exposed correctly but in sports that's not the case. If you can get everything exposed correctly that is the best but that's not always possible.
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Nice shooting! I like 2 & 3 the best. What a fun sport to photograph!

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Old Jan 10, 2010, 10:19 PM   #10
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Thanks Lou
the first one was showing the lighting i was dealing with more than anything

Thanks for the tips Mark
i admit i did increase the exposure to compensate for the bright sea, but i intentionally left it low enough to not blow out the white water, i will try next time to forget about the water and meter off the people and see how it goes
my initial thinking was there is a lot of texture and drama in the water and it would add to the photo
hmmm now i am thinking what would happen if i lowerd the contrast setting in the camera??
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