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Old May 25, 2010, 1:11 PM   #1
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In my creek beside my house this morning. About 5 feet long.
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Old May 25, 2010, 1:32 PM   #2
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From the size alone is seems to be a Yellow-bellied Kingsnake, but they apparently prefer grassland instead of water (unless it just fell in)
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Old May 25, 2010, 1:35 PM   #3
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I haven't a clue ... but I'm surprised Ash knows his snakes ! Experience from the wilds of Wales eh ?!
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Old May 25, 2010, 1:41 PM   #4
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This one looks close:

http://www.wildherps.com/species/N.f....html#fasciata

No offense to wildlife lovers. But, in my "neck of the woods", I'd classify it as Dead if I ran into it, as it resembles a Copperhead too much for my liking. That's just my personal opinion, not that of Steve's. ;-)

IOW, I'm not going to try and get close enough to figure out if the eyes look slanted or round and if the bands are slightly different or not, to try and analyze finer nuances between species to determine if it's poisonous; as if I see a snake that's not very obviously harmless (garter snake, green snake, etc.), and it's in an area where my family may step on it by accident, I'm going to take action to make sure it's not a potential source of harm to my family, especially with larger water snakes.

I never claimed to be a nice guy as far as snakes go. ;-)
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Old May 25, 2010, 1:48 PM   #5
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I haven't a clue ... but I'm surprised Ash knows his snakes ! Experience from the wilds of Wales eh ?!
I like snakes as much as I like bugs...

Although I do admit I did look it up, my first thought was a rat snake, but wasn't sure if they got that big, then went online and the yellow-bellied looked similar and was the right size.
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This one looks close:

http://www.wildherps.com/species/N.f....html#fasciata

No offense to wildlife lovers. But, in my "neck of the woods", I'd classify it as Dead if I ran into it, as it resembles a Copperhead too much for my liking. That's just my personal opinion, not that of Steve's. ;-)

IOW, I'm not going to try and get close enough to figure out if the eyes look slanted or round and if the bands are slightly different or not, to try and analyze finer nuances between species to determine if it's poisonous; as if I see a snake that's not very obviously harmless (garter snake, green snake, etc.), and it's in an area where my family may step on it by accident, I'm going to take action to make sure it's not a potential source of harm to my family, especially with larger water snakes.

I never claimed to be a nice guy as far as snakes go. ;-)
My exact sentiment.
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Old May 25, 2010, 5:20 PM   #7
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Hey Ed,
I'm not 100% positive but, it looks like a yellow bellied water snake to me.
We have a lot of them around here. A lot of people mistake them for a water moccasin but they are harmless.
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I don't know what it is, but if it were in my yard I'd be called yellow-bellied chicken.

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Old May 26, 2010, 12:32 AM   #9
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The pattern on it can be confused with a Copperhead sometimes but the give away is the head. No pit between the eyes and nostril. Therefore not a pit viper and could not be a Copperhead. Yes it is a banded water snake and quite harmless.
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Old May 26, 2010, 6:41 AM   #10
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Very fine habitat shot of the watersnake - looks a lot like our Northern Watersnakes (same genus, different species?).
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