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Old Sep 4, 2010, 12:57 AM   #1
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Default New K20D for $800Cdn

What do you think? It will use the batteries and grip I have for my K10D and give me better high ISO performance and a rugged body for significantly less than a K7. It also continues my "one generation behind" trend.
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Old Sep 4, 2010, 1:02 AM   #2
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Save up and get the K7 .... the K5 will be out soon and I'm sure the price of the K7 will drop considerably !
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Old Sep 4, 2010, 3:31 AM   #3
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K-x or K7 for good high ISO performance. Some tests/reviews even say, the K-x is ahead in terms of high ISO IQ compared to the K7

I can't really say for the other features (fast & accurate AF for example), though.

Having said this - the K20d is a nice camera, so you wouldn't do something "wrong", it's just that I think you'll miss the "woah-what-a-difference" effect.

That's why I'd like to chime in here: save for the K7 or (this is what I do to upgrade from my DL2) buy a K-x. But I'll wait for the first reviews on the new cam's and hope for another price drop. The K-x is available for under 500 EUR now, maybe it hits the 400 EUR mark or comes close soon

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Old Sep 4, 2010, 1:17 PM   #4
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There is always a "better" camera on the horizon. If you need the camera now, don't have time to save for a K7 or K5, and the ability to use the grip is a significant factor, I'd say go for it and use the K10 as a back-up (in that remote place, you should have one for this once in a lifetime opportunity) - the K20 is a great camera and an improvement over the K10.
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Old Sep 4, 2010, 8:34 PM   #5
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Hey Ira,
I love my K20 but, don't think I would pay that much for another one now.
I'm not sure what the difference is in Ca and US dollars is at the moment but, I got my K20 last year, from Adorama body only for $745 and that included a free camera bag. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Sep 4, 2010, 9:18 PM   #6
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Thanks for the input, I will probably get a K-X for indoor work and use my K10d for out in the elements. I may also get a 55-200mm WR lens for the K10 so that I have that extra bit of weather protection.
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Old Sep 4, 2010, 10:47 PM   #7
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I got my K 20D in march for 719. new online at amazon with kit lens, camera bag and some crappy filter set.

I would hold off, though its a GREAT camera! I havent used a K10, but its ruggedness and build is leagues beyond my *ist,

overall it just feels great in ur hands and produces great images as well.

I would buy the K7 though for almost double the FPS, though Im shooting mostly birds lately,
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My 2 cents on the idea - The noise of the K20 is much less than what you have with the K10. I was so delighted with the K20 when I got it (but then you know about my frustration with the K10). I like the color and image quality of the K20 much better, and think that a K20 would be a significant improvement, especially because of the much better AF capability compared to that particular K10.

While I like the interface of the K7 better than the older Pentax interface, it does have a learning curve. And I don't think the K7's image quality is any better than the K20, so I don't think it would be worth waiting for the new camera (whatever it will be) so you could pick up a K7 for a less price. I'd get the K20 instead, you are comfortable with the interface and the K20 would be a big step forward (my opinion).

Adding the Kx into the mix does change things - from what I've seen, the image quality is better than all of the rest. Granted, there are a bunch of missing features, the biggest being weather sealing. I sometimes feel a minor frustration by not having a front wheel when I'm using the K100, but it's not that big of a deal - just something to think about. I think the Kx's interface is similar to the K7 in that I don't think I'd miss the top monitor much, which I would miss very much with the earlier cameras. Adding it to the K10 is a good option, and will give you time to consider buying something later on as the K10 replacement.

I was never really impressed with my 50-200 and it was definitely decentered when I quit using it. I don't remember if I ever had AF issues with the K10, like I did with the 50-135.
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Thanks for the details Harriet, I have a lot to consider since I don't want to get into any major expense until next summer but would like a backup camera since I am so far away from the nearest retailer. My wife has a 50-200mm that is very good so I thought that a WR version would give me a little more ruggedness for outdoors with my K10. I will probably hold off on that and see what comes along.
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Old Sep 5, 2010, 1:25 PM   #10
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Ira - If you've used your wife's 50-200 without AF problems then I'd say get the WR version (and buy it from some place with a reasonable return policy in case you get a poor copy). I was never happy with my copy of the 50-200 as I had older, sharper lenses. It's entirely possible that my copy wasn't right from the first and I wasn't experienced enough to figure it out until the decentering got really bad. I haven't heard that there is as much copy variance with the WR version as with the old version of the lens.
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