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Old Sep 21, 2010, 3:09 AM   #1
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Default Our-Lady-of-the-Sablon Church - mixed hdr

The Sablon church is one of the most beautiful and intimate gothic churches in Brussels and a true example of brabantine gothic style.

But first let me show you the outside.





Then the indoor shots:

I have always been struggling with what to do with indoor church pictures.
The painted glass is gorgeous but I also want the rest of the interior.
Hdr is a solution but it never get the look that I want.

So I went for a mix,
  • I merged 3 shots (-2,0,+2) into hdr
  • tonemapped them as close a possible towards the center image
  • added the (0 ev) image in a layer
  • aligned with the tonemapped one
  • and masked the glass.
Up till now this is best I have gotten with these type of images, and with the least work.


iso2200 – f8 – 10mm – 1/20sec


iso2200 – f5.6 – 20mm – 1/30sec


iso2200 – f4 – 18mm – 1/30sec

Bigger versions of these images are here http://rhermans.smugmug.com/keyword/...uwterzavelkerk

Any and all C&C is appreciated

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They look pretty good to me - maybe the glass is a bit over-saturated but maybe it really was that strong.

An easy approach I've been trying which I'm finding works well is rather than trying to do a natural HDR on it's own, do a more severe HDR but then lay it over the original. I usually add it twice and use one layer to lighten the shadows and the other to darken the highlights so I can fine-tune it.

Here's a couple where I used your original, ran it through AutoHDR to make it more extreme and then layered it back over your original.

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Very beautiful .... both Ronny's & Martyn's 'improved' version.

Gorgeous example of a gothic church.
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Hey Ronny,
I love the architecture of the beautiful buildings you have over there.
These are gorgeous! I had to open two browsers os Icould see yours and Martins at the same time because scrolling from one to the other I couldn't see much difference.
However, seeing them side by side I do see a bit more detail in Martins edit. Not enough to make or break a shot on its own but, enough that it does make a difference. Good job to both of you.
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Ronny, the second outside shot is absolutely fabulous! All of them are really good its just that I am partial to #2.

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these are all terrific shots but #3 just blew me away with the interior exposure and the light beaming through those windows. Looks like a tricky shot to nail and you sank that one so deep theres no prying it back out
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What a lovely church building - and lovingly photographed. Your indoor shots look (to me) like just the right balance, so I can enjoy both the windows and the interior. Great job!
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They look pretty good to me - maybe the glass is a bit over-saturated but maybe it really was that strong.

An easy approach I've been trying which I'm finding works well is rather than trying to do a natural HDR on it's own, do a more severe HDR but then lay it over the original. I usually add it twice and use one layer to lighten the shadows and the other to darken the highlights so I can fine-tune it.
Thanks Martin, just downloaded your program and tried a few shots. Works great but still have to figure out all the settings.
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Very beautiful .... both Ronny's & Martyn's 'improved' version.

Gorgeous example of a gothic church.
Thanks Kevin.
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Hey Ronny,
I love the architecture of the beautiful buildings you have over there.
These are gorgeous! I had to open two browsers os Icould see yours and Martins at the same time because scrolling from one to the other I couldn't see much difference.
However, seeing them side by side I do see a bit more detail in Martins edit. Not enough to make or break a shot on its own but, enough that it does make a difference. Good job to both of you.
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