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Old Dec 11, 2010, 10:44 PM   #11
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I also will be interested in hearing your thoughts on this lens. I agree it's very encouraging that Pentax is making affordable prime lenses. A very fine lens does me no good if I can't afford it.
I think this is especially important given that Pentax's newest models no longer have the price advantage they once had. If we must pay more for the bodies then give us quality glass at a bargain price. I feel that Pentax has been a leader in the prime lens market but now we look at Canon and Nikon offering 35mm f1.8 and 85mm 1.8 lenses at low prices (if I do not have the aperture values correct please forgive me).

The 40mm pancake lens needs to be reduced to a normal DA lens (or even a DA L) and a less expensive fast 70 or 80 mm lens needs to replace the Limited model and introduce something like a 100mm f2 or faster as a Limited with more reach. Perhaps I am dreaming but I think the 40mm is a relatively simple optical design and small enough to be fine with a plastic mount so the price can drop to the sub $200 range where it belongs. The 70mm DA Limited should get similar treatment with the FA Limited 77mm staying on as the pro quality lens, after all the DA Limited isn't even particularly fast.

Give us a good set of three "beginner" lenses Pentax. The DA L 35mm is a start, now how about a DA L 18mm f2.8 and a DA L 50mm f1.7. Three high optical quality, light weight, simple, plastic mount, low cost lenses. Perhaps my suggestion of recasting the DA Limited 70mm f2.4 with a plastic body and mount would really round out the selection. Lenses like this with a K-X or K-R body would be the real successors to the old K1000 as the ultimate student camera.

Oops, rambling again.
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Old Dec 11, 2010, 10:54 PM   #12
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Ramble on, my friend. I agree with every word, and you said it much better than I could have.
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Old Dec 12, 2010, 1:32 AM   #13
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I had the Takumar lenses in the 80's, which I believe were made by Pentax and were a lower priced line to the Pentax line .

I'm not sure of the exact differences between the two lines, but I have heard that the big difference was that the lenses were not multi coated.

But both lines of lenses had metal lens mounts. My 1980's Takumar lenses seem to be close to the same quality level as my Pentax branded lenses from that era. I never really noticed much, if any of a difference.

I have an 18-55 kit lens, that I rarely use that has a plastic lens mount. It may be as durable as a metal mount, but I don't know.

For me, I would rather pay a few more bucks to have a metal lens mount. I feel the plastic lens mount will be more subject to breakage than a metal mount.

But on the other hand, I note that my modern Pentax lenses seem to have much more plastic than my 1970's and 1980's Pentax and Takumar lenses...but I have to admit...so far no real problems.

I suppose there are only a few ways to lessen the cost of lenses and modern plastics would be a prime way.
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Old Dec 12, 2010, 2:41 AM   #14
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I am not suggesting that Pentax reduce their quality, just that a few dollars more is usually quite a few dollars more so a line of lenses that are more modestly priced are in order. I can't afford most of the Limited lenses because of their prices, as a result I look for FA glass (which have metal mounts but lots of plastic in the construction).

The DA L 35mm f2.4 is the first attempt by Pentax to replace the once ubiquitous "standard" lens so I think a replacement for the equally ubiquitous 28mm and 100mm with fast inexpensive 18mm and 70mm lenses would complete the set for those who cannot pay the premium prices of the Limited lenses.

Right now it is cheaper in most cases to buy a zoom lens than it is to buy a prime. We need the Limited lenses because they are professional grade in construction, and we need the DA* range because of the weather resistance but why not a DA L line made up only of a few primes with modest construction but exceptional optical performance. Stagger the focal lengths enough so that there is no overlap and this can work for Pentax (for instance a DA L 18mm f2.8 would not be seen as an alternative to the 15mm Limited lens or even the DA 14mm, just as the DA L 35mm is not an alternative to the DA 35mm macro).

I like the idea, but if you can afford the better lenses then that is where you should buy. My FA 50mm f1.4 cost less than $300, the new DA* 55mm f1.4 is more than double that price. That pretty much sums up the issue for me.
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Old Dec 24, 2010, 11:19 AM   #15
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Using Annette's K100D Super with the new DA L 35mm f2.4 AL. Shot in RAW minimum processing in Picasa. Certainly looks like a keeper.

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Bokeh is outstanding! When I looked at it the aperture blades do make a rounder opening than most lenses, figured the bokeh would be lovely. It sure is!

Looks like this lens will be an excellent seller - inexpensive and lovely quality.
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With the 540 flash bounced.
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not sure about cheap lenses to be honest - rather have well built glass that will last personally so would rather see pentax expand its premium telephoto offerings

but i guess a DAL 35mm f1.8, 50mm f1.8 and 85 f1.8 would complete the line up at the other end too and help bring new people to pentax

OH!! Merry Christmas everyone!! after midnight here and here i am lying in bed on the computer - best get to sleep so santa can sneak down the chimney hehe =) hope you all have a great day
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Narf. There is a special offer until 2010-12-31 for the DA 35/2.4 --> 175 EUR plus shipping. On the other hand the Tamron 17-50/2.8 is available for 270 EUR including shipment. Both are very nice lenses from what I saw so far... and I don't have an AF capable low light lens at the moment.

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Narf. There is a special offer until 2010-12-31 for the DA 35/2.4 --> 175 EUR plus shipping. On the other hand the Tamron 17-50/2.8 is available for 270 EUR including shipment. Both are very nice lenses from what I saw so far... and I don't have an AF capable low light lens at the moment.

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Tough call but the 17-50mm is much more flexible.
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