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Old Mar 7, 2011, 12:16 PM   #1
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Well, just got over 10000 exposures with my KX this weekend, and now I found that the name IMGP9999 just switched to IMGP0001 this is not a very big problem right now, but I wanna ask you anyway:
Is there any way to make the name count IMGP10001 instead of 0001? or is it locked?
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Old Mar 7, 2011, 4:36 PM   #2
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Hi Cybertron,

With the Kx, AFAIK, there is no way to change the file number assignments in the camera. The easy workaround for me is to file my pics by date taken. If I see a digital file that I want to return to, I have the exif, so have the date taken. If I print the pic, I use an old fashioned rubber date stamp so I can refer back to the digital file -- I add the camera model and whatever other info I might want by hand.

I've used 11 different cameras/bodies in the past 11 years of digital photography, so I have had to break it down to camera model, year, then month and date in subfolders. All PP'd images, I copy to the "month" folder and also to a separate folder I call "favorites". I use the "favorites" folder as the source for my slide show screen saver. I use G PhotoShow Free (displaying the image file name) as my screen saver, and I find myself constantly critiquing the pics, so I actually watch my screen saver quite a lot (which is probably weird).

http://www.gphotoshow.com/gpshow_free.htm

I've found that by viewing a slideshow of shots with only a 2-4 second duration, I can more easily pick out which shots have some visual impact. When normally browsing through images, I get caught up in memories of taking the shot, and this actually colors my opinion of the shot more than I thought it would. With only a couple of seconds to scan a photo, I tend to more clearly see it just as an image. I regularly cull shots from my "favorites" folder and when I do, I move it to a folder of "fav seconds" so they will not be included in the screen saver.

In ACDSee, I've cataloged the bird and macro creature pics by species and common name, and rated the pics. For people, I've cataloged them by name, year, and event. For the relatively few scenics I do, they're cataloged by location and year. I can usually find any particular PP'd digital pic I might have in mind in a matter of a few minutes at most. Once I have the file # and date, I can find the original within seconds. This works for me, and I have over 100K image files and many hundreds of GB -- I save everything that isn't a total loss because of some gross mistake on my part.

I think it's a good idea to develop a system early on to manage your images. I've found ACDSee Pro a good program for this, but probably the most use Picassa or the organizer offered by their favorite editing program. Just about any system is workable once you get used to it, but I'd try out a few free trials and see which ones you might find most intuitive -- this always helps me in choosing software. Free is good, but I don't mind paying for software that does what I want the way I want it. If it's not intuitive, I have to relearn it every time I use it, and this is just too much effort for me. . .

Many seem to like renaming their files. I don't, but a good free program for this is Advanced Renamer. It's free, a little convoluted to use, but once you get a handle on the interface, it works great and is very versatile for batch renaming.

http://www.advancedrenamer.com/

I already had many thousands of images when I started to really organize them. It took quite a while to go through and find a system I could work with. It's really worthwhile, IMO, however you choose to do it.

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The Advanced Renamer looks like a good option.

Have the renamer, rename the file using the date from the exif data.

So the file name would be . . .

2011-03-07-05.11.22.56 IMGP0001.jpg

<date><time><original filename>.jpg

Then even if your counter starts back at zero, all your filenames are still unique, and the date and time will keep your files in chronological order.

Found this one too . . .

http://www.digicamsoft.com/softnamexif.html

I'm going to use that, the next time I go camping and I'm trying to get the images from 3 different cameras in chronological order when I put them into the same folder for a slide show. <grin>

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That is one of the feature that the K20 on cameras have that I love - the ability to change the first part of the image name. I changed the K20 to P2K0, and have changed the K7 and K5 to that for the first two digits. The only thing is that the counter doesn't "see" the extra 0 as a number it can change, so when I went over 10,000 I had to change the first few files manually, then changed the camera.

I also keep my photos chronologically. I don't split out the cameras since their file names are all unique (IMPG for the K100, P2K for the K20 when I still owned it, K7 and K5) and I keep the raw files without changing the file names. The processed photos get renamed - I add something in the middle of the filename to give me an idea of what the picture is, leaving the camera identifier and file number alone so I can quickly go back to the raw file.

I agree with Scott - its best to decide on a file system early and then stick with it. I thought about changing my system once but got so totally confused, I went back to my original method.
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Thanks, that does help me...Snowstorm/TacticDesigns: Nice little program, too bad I am using mac, but I think I am able to to what that program want with Automated scripts....nice!

thanks, right now I am using the "normal (?)", Year -> Month -> PICS method
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Cybertron - do you have exiftool
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
on your mac? It's a command-line program (using terminal) but can do all kinds of renaming, etc. Can also reset the date/time to correspond with the exif data...

For viewing photos, try Xee
http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/xee.html
or Phoenix slides
http://blyt.net/phxslides/
(both mac freeware).

Graphic Converter
http://www.lemkesoft.com/
(not free, but rather inexpensive mac software) also does fine job with viewing as slide show, and can sort by name, or by creation date...
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Cybertron - do you have exiftool
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/
on your mac? It's a command-line program (using terminal) but can do all kinds of renaming, etc. Can also reset the date/time to correspond with the exif data...

For viewing photos, try Xee
http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/apps/xee.html
or Phoenix slides
http://blyt.net/phxslides/
(both mac freeware).

Graphic Converter
http://www.lemkesoft.com/
(not free, but rather inexpensive mac software) also does fine job with viewing as slide show, and can sort by name, or by creation date...

Thanks!! I will definetly take a look
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If you use Lightroom, there's a way to re-name files when you do a copy/import and also on export.
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If you use Lightroom, there's a way to re-name files when you do a copy/import and also on export.
ok that is intresting? how do I set that on import?
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Hi CyberTron,

The following link will take you to a tutorial on how to import with a different name in Lightroom 3

http://www.digital-photography-workflow-basics.com/lightroom-file-renaming.html
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