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Old Jun 24, 2011, 4:27 AM   #11
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Now, if Paris Hilton ended up buying one of these things, that would be great airplay for the Pentax Q and a great target market. <grin>

As for pricing, yeah its a little steep, but then I see all my friends' kids paying $600 for an iPhone or iPad, $300 for a game system, $60-100 for games. And this is, for the most part, for entertainment. For that market, it probably isn't that much of a stretch.

The big challenge is positioning this camera as the most fun, in the smallest package, that you can take everywhere, to capture "your" life's precious moments.

I just saw that the fisheye is MSRP ~$129 and the other toy lenses are ~$79?
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Old Jun 24, 2011, 4:51 AM   #12
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Hi Ira,

I'm a cup half full guy, and I think the camera has possibilities. A lot of people look at it and think "it won't do what my DSLR will", and they'll be absolutely correct. An alternative way to look at is "what could it do that my DSLR can't?"

The most common knock that I've read so far is that DOF will be very hard to control with such a small sensor. . . but there are plenty of situations where I'd like more DOF -- think about it -- a high quality dedicated macro that has to yield better IQ than a macro mode on a P&S or add on macro extensions for fixed lens cameras, and with the flash shoe, a tiny ring light -- the whole rig weighing less than your DSLR dedicated macro lens. . . What about landscape shooters -- deep DOF at wide apertures for handheld golden hour shots.

I think that the fisheye has some cool possibilities, and with the standard lens and the optical VF, street shooting should be a strong suit with a very inconspicuous camera.

If there were to be a K to Q adapter they could design in an electical to mechanical aperture linkage to make A capable lenses AE or have aperture blades in the adapter and leave the lens wide open.

It could be a tele shooter's dream With a 16+x "crop factor" that would give you over 1600mm equivalent from a 100mm lens which would be big, but not outrageous for the size of the camera, especially if one tries to imagine what a 1000mm f2.8 (1500mm EQ) lens would look like on an APS-C DSLR.

A tiny 50mm f1.4 M42 lens would give you an 800mm EQ f1.4 that you could carry in your pocket. BTW, that's 800mm EQ that will focus at 0.45m (under 1.5 feet). I don't know how to correctly calculate magnification factors considering different sensor sizes, but by multiplying the 0.15x by the crop factor, it comes out to over 2.4x . . . with a working distance of over one foot with a lot of DOF which sounds like a bug shooter's dream.

How about a screw drive motor mounted in a K to Q adapter which will allow AF functionality if you add a battery pack to drive it. Or design an adapter like the 1.7x AFA with a focusing lens group in the adapter driven by the Q AF system that will give limited AF capability with some MF prefocusing. There are some really amazing possibilities to this camera, especially for long tele shooters if Pentax does its part.

With the backlit CMOS sensor, I'm guessing that the Q will have pretty good IQ up to 1600 or 3200, even with the small sensor size.

I don't think that anyone can judge this camera from specs on paper. If you only think in terms of current cameras, as they're currently used, it looks like a loser, but it's possible that with some creative accessories and lenses from Pentax, it could be a revolutionary concept.

The build quality seems to be top end. It should perform well. It has advanced control over exposure parameters. In the right hands, for the right purposes, it could be well worth the price.

I think it looks like a unique advanced photographic tool that has yet to be put through its paces. I'll hold off making a judgment until I see what some creative photographers do with this camera. . .

Scott

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Old Jun 24, 2011, 5:01 AM   #13
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Scott - I think Pentax should hire you for their R&D and Marketing depts !

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Like I said, I want one but for my demographic group I think the price is too steep.
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I use two P&S with a 1/1.7 sensors and get great results, for me a small pocket camera is a great thing to have with you at all times. I don't know if I want to carry lenses. Then again Scott has some good points, maybe a k adapter could entice me.

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Since there is now a Pentax Q forum I think we can consider this tread dead. Thanks for the comments.
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