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Old Feb 27, 2006, 1:16 AM   #1
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maybe this is talked about before but i really like ot know more on this. i mean what is with the store owners laughing when you ask for pentax. i ask my parents about pentax and that all they really remember back then that was used beside cannon.pentax was the more liked cameara. so why they laughing about it now?
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Old Feb 27, 2006, 4:28 AM   #2
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Ignorance, just like discrimination. Many people think there are only Canon and Nikon, and most know nothing beyond Canon and Nikon. To make themselves look like knowledgeable, they got to laugh at something. Just like some people pick on others for no reason, this ignorant behaviour just makes them feel better and superior. :lol:
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Old Feb 27, 2006, 6:58 AM   #3
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I work at a camera store, and I dont laugh at Pentax.

In fact, if a customer comes in to ask about dSLR's the first question I ask is whether or not they have a selection of lenses in a particular mount. If they have k-mount, Ill push the pentax.

If they have no lenses, Im inclined to push the Canon, mainly for the reason we have a huge range of affordable canon lenses in stock, in the store - and so the range is much more accessible. For example, we have a 400/5.6 L series prime for $2400AUD, which for me is an excellent RRP compared to the Nikon and pentax primes.

We dont stock a nice range of K-mount lenses which is why i dont like to push the pentax unless they have the lenses already, because if they come back to buy more lenses it will take time to special order them in.
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Old Feb 27, 2006, 8:22 AM   #4
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Many people treat cameras like jewelery, therefore you must have an easily recognized name on your camera. They notice Nikon and Canon and maybe even Leica but Pentax is not on their list.

errno_gmm, I agree completely, if anyone with Pentax lenses asks my opinion I say Pentax, anyone without I usually suggest Canon or Nikon. Occasionally I will suggest Olympus to anyone who seems like they want good quality with minimum hassle, the two lens Olympus kits give them a very good focal length range and the supersonic wave filter means they can be a little sloppy about lens changes without as much risk of dust.

Personally I chose Pentax because I had some lenses and I reasoned that batteries have become obsolete in the past so I wanted a camer that took a very universal power unit, AA. Also the price was right (mine came as a Christmas gift from my wife who was tired of hearing me talk about Pentax DSLRs)

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Old Feb 27, 2006, 9:30 AM   #5
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Many camera store employees don't have a clue what they are talking about, even with the cameras they recommend. That is not true of all of them but I have found it is a majority and that is very irritating when I am looking for equipment.

I was in one of the larger camera stores in Milwaukee a while back and two salesmen were showing DSLR's to a customer and they were only showing Nikon and Canon, even though they had a DS on display. When I asked them why they did not give the customer the option of looking a Pentax they said it really did not take very good photos and was too low level for them to recommend to customers.

I then took out my DS and showed the customer its features, its backwards compatibility with lenses and its size compared to the D70s and 20D they were pushing and told him my DS took great photos. I was amazed to find out that neither salesman had even looked at the DS before and didn't even know how it worked. I found out they had it in stock because they were a Pentax dealer and had to carry one model even though they never showed it to customers unless the asked for it and even then they tried to sell Nikon or Canon instead.

When I left they all were better informed and the customer actually purchased the DS because he liked the way it felt compared to the larger N and C.

I wouldn't recommend Canon or Nikon over Pentax to anyone, since I really don't see any advantage in either of their systems unless you have unlimited cash and want to buy their pro models.

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Old Feb 27, 2006, 10:36 AM   #6
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On this same topic, I find that the people who run down a particular brand usually have little knowledge of it. When I recommend Canon it is usually to someone who has little previous knowledge of DSLRs, I suggest Canon because it is the easiest to find and the cheaper EF-S lenses are also usually easy to find (though not of terribly high optical or mechanical quality). The better EF and EF-S glass (and the super-expensive L glass) is there for the serious, and the 20D is a nice well built camera. If someone asked today I may suggest Nikon because the D50 is good value and the D200 looks like a big step forward. I make it a point to learn as much as I can about all DSLRs, just in case I am asked.

I suggest Pentax to those who are more interested in photography than equipment. Why? Because Pentax offers the option of dealing with a variety of older lenses, it is very inexpensive and the image quality (especially in RAW) is quite nice without the overprocessed "plastic" look of the Canon (the images I see are often unbelievable because they are too smooth, almost like computer graphic images). I also like the Pentax B&W filter in my DL, it produces a very nice B&W image with no fuss.

Anyway, all DSLRs produce excellent images, so why argue. I don't particularly like Canon but that bias does not stop me from recommending it to someone I feel would be happier with it.

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Old Feb 27, 2006, 3:14 PM   #7
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I dont work in a "Camera store" but I work in a store that sells the general electronics. (Costco!!!)

Sales person that band bash are just plain ingorance like what someone else said or they get paid a really high commission for a certian brand. Being a sales person and someone who follows up on electronics even after work give me a good understanding of the general electronics and and I find many other sales person (mainly in big name electronic store, and yes even costco) to be unknowlegable in what they are selling.

When getting help from an electronic store, a good sales person will know what he/she is talking about. And a good sales person will not recommond you something without knowing what your personal preferrence are.

If someone laugh at a certian brand without having a valued reason why, then you should take your money somewhere else. My friend's dad's brother's neighbor's boyfriend who is an expert is not a good reason.
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Old Feb 27, 2006, 3:27 PM   #8
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Sometimes just asking to work with somebody else is a good move. I recently went into our local Ritz, and talked with the guy in there about the Pentax cameras he had - admitted he didn't know anything about them, but told me the Nikons were better - hmm....

I came back a few weeks later - different salesman working - he too was a nikon guy, but was very receptive to me asking about Pentax, did his best to help out without saying anything negative about the camera...

Just depends on the salesman I guess.
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I totally agree!!! I am in the Uk and recently looked into getting a Pentax *ist DL , I also really wanted it in SILVER.

I went to many shops and also went to an exhibition of UK camera specialists and wholesalers in Birmingham (namely "Focus 2006").

I felt like a mental person with the reaction I got from each stall. Most told me that they did not sell the Pentax *ist DL, a certain photography shop, namely CALUMET (formally KJP), simply laughed and said they never will sell Pentax. :O

I really wanted the SILVER version and could not get this for love nor money, when I went tothe Pentax stall themselves they told me there were none in Europe!

Anyway, I have one now, whichI bought second hand from ebay, and I am so happy with it. :-)

Long live Pentax Digital SLR!!!
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I totally agree!!! I am in the Uk and recently looked into getting a Pentax *ist DL , I also really wanted it in SILVER.

I went to many shops and also went to an exhibition of UK camera specialists and wholesalers in Birmingham (namely "Focus 2006").

I felt like a mental person with the reaction I got from each stall. Most told me that they did not sell the Pentax *ist DL, a certain photography shop, namely CALUMET (formally KJP), simply laughed and said they never will sell Pentax. :O

I really wanted the SILVER version and could not get this for love nor money, when I went to the Pentax stall themselves they told me there were none in Europe!

Anyway, I have one now, which I bought second hand from ebay, and I am so happy with it. :-)

Long live Pentax Digital SLR!!!
I have the silver DL. It is more like chrome I believe. Instead of the odd look you got, I caused a couple of discussion amongst the Pentax staff at B&H in New York (arguably the largest store on the N Am side). I came from Toronto and actually they never saw and never had one silver DL. I would say my DL is more like half black half silver. So both silver or black lens are ok. A black body and silver lens really sucks. I definitely like what I have.

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