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Old Jun 18, 2006, 3:18 PM   #1
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Has anyone used macro bellows on an *ist DL? It looks like a fun thing to experiment with to me...
it's also an alternative to spending 200+ on a macro lens.

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Old Jun 18, 2006, 3:42 PM   #2
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you'll need a good tripod. also , maybe, a macro focusing rail, a good 50mm or 100mm lens. i'd suggest a less expensive 1:2 or 1:1 macro lens to start with. you can use it with the bellows later.
this way you can try your hand at macros. once you get that down then you'll realize that the bellows is going to be twice as much work. a lot of people think that macros are easy, but to get outstanding shots you've really got to work at it. to me, a flash is a must. and you have to get it off camera for best results, altho you can use the onboard with some lenses. you can also use some using it on the hotshoe.you'll also need a grip for great results. a monopod helps but i've found having just a slim pole to grip along with a grip works wonders.

i think i saw a panagor 90mm f2.8 on ebay a minute ago. this is a sleeper lens. made by kino(kiron) back when they really made lenses. should be able to pick it up for under 100usd. i've got a smcM100 f4 1:2 macro that i don't need anymore if you are interested. the sigma 70-300mm also does 1:2 macros also. i wouldn't recomend it for a starting macro lens tho. i have one of them FS also. let me ck ebay again and i'll see if i acn get you a link.

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Old Jun 18, 2006, 3:48 PM   #3
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just cked and it's a screw mount. it's a GREAT macro lens but i would not suggest it because you have to use it stopped down. you need apertures of f16+ for macro work and the view finder is real dark at those apertures.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Panagor-Pentax-P...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 3:56 PM   #4
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this is a good starter lens
http://cgi.ebay.com/SMC-Pentax-M-50m...QQcmdZViewItem

this is even better. he'll never get that much for it. it's a dream. this is the one i have.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-A-100mm-f...QQcmdZViewItem

also , too much
http://cgi.ebay.com/As-New-Pre-Owned...QQcmdZViewItem

this one you REALLY want. fantastic quality. but you'll pay for it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sigma-EX-105mm-f...QQcmdZViewItem


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Old Jun 18, 2006, 4:35 PM   #5
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How are these? They're all European auctions, to keep the shipping costs to my country (Belgium) minimal.

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Soligor-28-8...QQcmdZViewItem

I've heard much good about the 28-70mm
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/PENTAX-P-KA-...QQcmdZViewItem



And what about these telelenses?
I would like it because I'm still looking for a tele-zoom too, and this one would cover both:
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI...MakeTrack=true

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/PENTAX-PK-A-...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/PENTAX-PK-A-...QQcmdZViewItem

Here's an AF Sigma.
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/PENTAX-PK-F-...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/PENTAX-P-KA-...QQcmdZViewItem


An old Hoya, you don't see these often, cheap as heck too...:
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/70-150-mm-f-...QQcmdZViewItem

Anything decent in there? Sorry for the burden...

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P.S.:
I don't entirely get it, is 1:1 a larger magnification than 1:2 or the other way around?
the logical would be 1:1 is better than 1:2, but I wanted to make sure...
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one of these says 1:1 macro ability but i'll wager at 10:1 it does not. all the others are around 1:4 which is mainly just a close up lens. if you want to get into it you should stay with at least half life size, 1:2 ratio. do you know what that means?? and it's certainly no trouble TDN. i love spending other peoples money. are the EU auctions in english?? i'm an american so i can only speak 1 language and it not well.

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Old Jun 18, 2006, 5:01 PM   #7
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the better macro lenses will not be a zoom. for best results get a prime.
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 5:10 PM   #8
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Yeah I noticed about the 1:4 stuff right after the post

I'm a mathematician so I should know...well...holes in my head right

Anyway sorry I forgot those links were in Dutch. I'll searhc the object nrs on ebay.com and post those.


I've narrowed my interest down to these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3AIT&rd=1

I take it that was the one you were talking about. I would consider getting it just for the tele range and the nice price...

The hoya because I like oddballs...I wonder what this one would produce...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3AIT&rd=1

If this one stays in my budget, maybe...maybe...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...%3AIT&rd=1

I'll search on tomorrow, but right now I'm going to sleep

thanks for the help until now
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 5:15 PM   #9
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http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?pid=5827
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Old Jun 18, 2006, 5:21 PM   #10
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can't find anything on the hoya but i'd be suprised if it was more than 1:3.

that sigma i can't praise enough. it will go up to at least 200usd. i was going to get it when i found the vivitar 105mm f2.5. that's the reason for the 100 f4 going on sale. if you are interested i'll let it go for 75usd + actual shipping to where ever..
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