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Frank Doorhof Apr 9, 2003 3:21 PM

First attempt of real portrait of my son.
A first try at a real portrait.

Had to do a lot of work in making the background better, and removing ALOT of shadows.

We thought a badcloth would make a good background and a light would fight the drop shadows of the flash, well that's why it's a first try I guess :D.

The end result is rather good I think, I'm curious at comments.


gibsonpd3620 Apr 9, 2003 5:27 PM


I think you did well. It is nice to be young and have a father that loves you. Enjoy your time with him.

Klaus DK Apr 10, 2003 2:59 AM

Hi Frank!

I have these comments for your fine shot.

1.The crop is too tight at the top. Your need some more space between the edge and the hair.
2. His pupils seems to have some red in them...
3. behind his head there's some black/red stuff - seems to confuse the composition
4. The same at the bottom - some grey colors - but this is a matter of taste. Everyone can see its a table or floor or something
5. I like framing photos too - but your framing should go all around the foto to get the RIGHT 3d effect.
6. you could use a smaller F.stop and at the same time focus on the nearest eye. This would get his head more in focus...
7. maybe adjust the Whitebalance a little. His head seems a little bit red!
For at first timer - it a fine shot. And a great kid to take photograph.
A tip!
Try to get the light point/dot in his pupils and not is the blue of the eyes.
Was this any help to you ?
Regards Klaus

Frank Doorhof Apr 10, 2003 10:58 AM


Thanks for the tips, will take all that in :D.

The stuff behind brian is his feet, underneed is his sweater.

I wish I could crop some more, but this is the uncropped shot, I was luckly he would stay still for the time being.

Will take some more in future (offcourse), and take all the pointers.


steve6 Apr 10, 2003 11:54 AM

I think portraits are the most difficult thing to do in photography.

I had a really good go with 35mm many years ago. I used a flash behind the subject on a slave to eliminate shadows. I also set-up to halogen garden lights at about 45 degrees on the small room I used to have - worked reasonably well.

For me the key is to blast away and take loads of pics (great with digital) - the more you take the more relaxed the subject gets. Use plenty of zoom so you're not sticking the camera in the subject's mush.

Try to get someone else to distract/relax them. Talk to them a lot. It's all about a relaxed natural shot.

Having said all that I got very few good -uns :cry:

Klaus DK Apr 10, 2003 1:40 PM

Thanks for sharing Steve. I'm trying to get something going with portraits myself at this time - you tips suits me well. Thanks I'll keep them in mind.

Frank: If you're planning on printing your shot - you could clone the onwanted things away easily...

Frank Doorhof Apr 10, 2003 2:52 PM

I know about cloning :D, I love it, but on the other hand I don't see any unwanted stuff, it's his feet and his sweater it would look unnatural for me to clone that out.


Klaus DK Apr 10, 2003 3:36 PM

Well it a matter of taste. I think it's important that you can see what things are...I could'nt. A matter of taste! See ya.

Frank Doorhof Apr 11, 2003 4:16 AM


Totally correct, the problem is that I know what it is :D, and when removing it (I tried) it's just not..... correct (know what I mean).

I will have to work on the framing more, but this is the first attempt.

Next time I will take some more time with him.

By the way again thanks for all the comments, it really helps.
Sometimes other people see other things.


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