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conor Aug 19, 2009 2:48 PM

Jamie (rated PG)
 
Alright, last night I spent 2 hours shooting 145 frames of a friend, here are (final?) edits the first two frames I chose to process. C&C welcome!

http://www.burningdeep.com/JamieM/Jamie.01.jpg

http://www.burningdeep.com/JamieM/Jamie.02.jpg

JohnG Aug 19, 2009 4:09 PM

First pose is very nice. The lighting looks good to me (but I'm not a portrait guy). The two issues for me are: 1) the eyes aren't that sharp - especially compared to second photo - it looks like it might even be a bit of motion blur - the hand is sharp but facial features not so much and 2) the wrinkles in the sheet are distracting. Use a healing brush to 'iron' them out.

Second shot is not as appealing (well subject still is but not as much the pose). There are also a lot of hot spots on the face, neck and the shoulder

conor Aug 19, 2009 4:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnG (Post 993250)
First pose is very nice. The lighting looks good to me (but I'm not a portrait guy). The two issues for me are: 1) the eyes aren't that sharp - especially compared to second photo - it looks like it might even be a bit of motion blur - the hand is sharp but facial features not so much and 2) the wrinkles in the sheet are distracting. Use a healing brush to 'iron' them out.

Second shot is not as appealing (well subject still is but not as much the pose). There are also a lot of hot spots on the face, neck and the shoulder

Thanks John, you've given me a bit to think about.

I'll likely go back and re-work the edit of the first.
I agree with your comment regarding the pose of the second, I posted it as I liked the contrast and punch between the skin, the white, and the black

simple Aug 21, 2009 12:06 AM

the first pose again is my choice a quick sharpen or resize resample with infranview sorts the sharpening out as for the second image the lighting and background are right just the pose isnt quite there

Bynx Aug 21, 2009 6:40 AM

The first pose looks like you have captured an intimate moment -- an apprehension on her part to continue undressing. The second pose looks like she is at attention and eyes left to keep distance. I prefer the lighting of the first shot but its too hard leaving that shadow cast by her arm. Id like to see the lighting setup of the second pose used with the first pose with your aperture closed 1 or 2 fstops. The first shot needs a bit more intimate lighting.

conor Aug 21, 2009 11:49 AM

Thanks for the feedback everyone!


The flashes were in the same position for both shots:

left flash was about 4' high, 2' in front, 4' to the left of center
right flash was about 5' high, 1' in front, 4' to the right of center
third flash was on the camera bounced off a reflector

In the first shot, there's about 250 watts of 6000k ambient light
In the second shot there's about 20 watts of 3000k ambient light
(I know watts aren't a measure of intensity, but imagine incandescent lightbulbs at these wattages)

both frames were shot at F4.

Personally, i like the pose of shot 1, and the lighting of shot 2, which is the reason I chose to post these two in particular. I do have others that are awaiting post production, I'll likely update this thread when they're done.

Edits were in Portrait Professional for the skin and PhotoShop for the background/lighting.

One issue I came across was the fact that my model was not very body conscious. I guess this is a skill that needs to be learned over time. We'll be doing another shoot once I have better studio space available (the room I used for these is only about 90 square feet). In the meantime, I've got to learn how to position my model for the best outcome (so I can focus on improving my amateur photography skills while shooting)

conor Oct 1, 2009 8:01 PM

Another frame from the same shoot, slightly different style of editing this time.

Thoughts?

http://www.burningdeep.com/JamieM/Jamie.03.jpg

simple Oct 2, 2009 12:01 AM

just lacks the eye contact i think it would have added a lot more to the pic barring that everything else looks ok :)

littlejohn Oct 2, 2009 12:24 AM

Thoughts!!!! What in hell are you doing with my wife...:eek:

Seriously...I am glad you posted here and I've enjoyed the C&C's Until someone mentioned 'hotspots' on the face neck an shoulder...I hadn't noticed :o...

Its a great way to learn...

In the last one...I think there is too much black..to me its overpowering...since she is blond (tho blacks on blonds look good...) the fairness of the girl gets lost..My guess is if she was brunette..it would be fine.. (but what the hell do i know...)

JohnG Oct 2, 2009 6:50 AM

It depends what you're after. If this is the first in a Penthouse series that's one thing. But this tends more towards dirty than art for me. There isn't a sensual aspect to it, a finger in the panties and looking down at the breasts is again something for a Penthouse spread. So again it depends on what you were after. A nude can be sensual or artistic. But if you were going for anything other than porn in this pose, in IMO you missed the mark.

bug2008 Oct 4, 2009 10:56 PM

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conor Oct 5, 2009 9:20 AM

Thanks everyone!

Dr. Mr. Vandertramps Oct 5, 2009 5:29 PM

the shot is well-lit, but i've gotta side with John on this one. It leans more toward erotica than a sensual, artsy shot. Clothing aside, it doesn't leave anything to the imagination, i guess? Some well positioned shadows could add an element of mystery that would push it more into the high-brow realm.

I guess you could sort of look at it as the difference between "hotness" and "beauty" - both are good, but are different, and it all depends what you are going for!

Jerolin Oct 5, 2009 6:22 PM

A fine line indeed... It's hard sometimes to distinguish between art and erotica...even better yet...is there a such a thing as artistic erotica? I'm inclined to think it might exist.

Regardless of all that, it's a beautiful girl and great photos. I think.

SharpShotGal Oct 10, 2009 2:49 PM

Great Shot Conor though I am a woman I can see the distraction all you others have here right she only lacks the eye contact.. what do I know well I may not of taken any shots like this but darn it I have read playboy for a long time and all the others too. I have the eye for pose as well... cause of all the actual study of pose not the study of the Sxx of the subject but cause of the subject pose at least make her look at some hanging stars above your head and tell her to make a wish..Men...


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