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Old Oct 20, 2003, 11:41 AM   #11
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Hi Sound Engineer__

You have captured a wonderful expression on your subject

I did try to bring back the highlights in PSP 7 but was not
able to really improve the photo.

Here are two suggestions for future shoots

1. If at all possible, try shooting early/late in the day so the
the gentle light of dusk/dawn falls on your subject. This
will reduce "blown highlights", I believe.

2. Perhaps an opaque umbrella overhead to reduce but not eliminate the light. If the face is a little dark, you could add
a fill flash at less than full strength perhaps.

Someday, I hope to visit your country. I have long been
intrigued by Norway. By the grace of your submissions, you
have offered wonderful glimpses into your homeland and
I thank you
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Old Oct 20, 2003, 11:59 AM   #12
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here are the terms and explanations of dodging and burning.

http://www3.telus.net/drkrm/burndodge.htm

burning- to add exposure to a particular area. hence making it depending on to item whiter or darker

dodging- to reduce exposure in a particular area. for similar results as above

one method additive the other subtractive.
It's ok sjms, and the same is for PS.

We can synthetize in a more esplicit way :

The Dodge Tool is used to lighten tones
http://www.debmchugh.com/pse/tool_dodge.htm

The Burn Tool is used to darken tones
http://www.debmchugh.com/pse/tool_burn.htm

So, my question is , why should we use the dodge tool in the hair ?
Shouldn't we use the burn tool instead ?
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Old Oct 20, 2003, 9:38 PM   #13
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I figure I'll just jump right back in here.

First, I just want to say that I only made a correction to the original photo because soundengineer asked for suggestions on how to lessen the burnt out highlights.
That being said, I actually really like the photo as is (burnt out highlights and all). It's a wonderful pic capturing a wonderful expression on the child's face
When I originally tried to edit the photo using the BURN tool (yes it does darken tones) I found that it did not create a realistic effect at all. If large areas are totally burnt out then they will only appear more shaded but have no texture. Hair has a lot of texture so darkening a totally smooth area doesn't look natural.

That is why I decided to use the clone stamp (minimally) to create a more realistic effect.
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Old Oct 21, 2003, 3:36 AM   #14
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I use another technique than cloning. On my website I describe a way to add element (or remove them). This technique is well suited for removing burned out areas.

It will take TIME, but this shows what I mean.

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Old Oct 21, 2003, 11:26 AM   #15
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Wow Klaus, as usual, you've made a great improvement.
I'll have to read that part of your website

Thanks for the tip!
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Old Oct 22, 2003, 5:12 AM   #16
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Thanks Tracy - kind words. I'm not really an expert. I just love to take photos and if I can make them even better back home, I'll do that. I share most of my experiences on my website. And you're very welcome among lots of others in these forums.
This was just an example though! If you put some time into it, you will soon be able to improve your shots (not thay you need to. You take fine pics IMO).

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Old Oct 22, 2003, 2:24 PM   #17
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I figure it is now my time to jump right back in now.....hehe....and say thankyou all again for the ideas and comments.

I have taken all of them to heart and will try to better this portrait.
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Thanks Tracy - kind words. I'm not really an expert.
Well, I think you are are an expert. You do great work with your camera and Photo Shop. Thanks for you input and taking the time to help members like myself on this forum.
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