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Old Oct 12, 2009, 1:39 PM   #1
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Default Street Scenes X - Things are weird at Night...

During the daytime, we humans can see all around us, but shooting at night, things that are trivial, normal, suddenly appear sinister, or glamous, or just plain strange...

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Old Oct 12, 2009, 1:43 PM   #2
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This lot I find acceptable. At least you cant identify anyone so there should be no problem if one of them or their friends sees it.
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Old Oct 12, 2009, 2:07 PM   #3
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Funny, but I had the opposite reaction to Bynx. To me there's nothing interesting going on in these photos. There's no compelling subject or story to them and the motion blur goes beyond a sense of movement to being distracting. So to me, by making the people so distant you've lost anything interesting about who they are or what they're doing. And, I would suggest having half of Chato in the frame is a bit distracting as well.

Either of the first two images COULD be compelling. In the first, the blur is just too distracting. I see it was shot at f2.8 1/4 ISO 400. Even though grain would be increased I'd rather have that and less blur - say f2.0 ISO 3200 and 1/60.

Second shot - closer to the group - see faces and interaction. It's people that make street photography so interesting. And while I realize that's precisely what Bynx doesn't like I think that's precisely what makes a good street photo a good street photo. Just one man's opinion though.
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Funny, but I had the opposite reaction to Bynx. To me there's nothing interesting going on in these photos. There's no compelling subject or story to them and the motion blur goes beyond a sense of movement to being distracting. So to me, by making the people so distant you've lost anything interesting about who they are or what they're doing. And, I would suggest having half of Chato in the frame is a bit distracting as well.

Either of the first two images COULD be compelling. In the first, the blur is just too distracting. I see it was shot at f2.8 1/4 ISO 400. Even though grain would be increased I'd rather have that and less blur - say f2.0 ISO 3200 and 1/60.

Second shot - closer to the group - see faces and interaction. It's people that make street photography so interesting. And while I realize that's precisely what Bynx doesn't like I think that's precisely what makes a good street photo a good street photo. Just one man's opinion though.
I agree with you 100%. I said this lot was acceptable. I didnt say it was any good. I wasnt going to go into the quality of the pics. Everyone would think I was biased. By being acceptable I mean in fairness to those on display.
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Funny, but I had the opposite reaction to Bynx. To me there's nothing interesting going on in these photos. There's no compelling subject or story to them and the motion blur goes beyond a sense of movement to being distracting. So to me, by making the people so distant you've lost anything interesting about who they are or what they're doing. And, I would suggest having half of Chato in the frame is a bit distracting as well.

Either of the first two images COULD be compelling. In the first, the blur is just too distracting. I see it was shot at f2.8 1/4 ISO 400. Even though grain would be increased I'd rather have that and less blur - say f2.0 ISO 3200 and 1/60.

Second shot - closer to the group - see faces and interaction. It's people that make street photography so interesting. And while I realize that's precisely what Bynx doesn't like I think that's precisely what makes a good street photo a good street photo. Just one man's opinion though.
Your critique has merits. I've since decided to shoot these images at ISO 800, despite the increased noise. On the other hand, I'm neither shooting to capture peoples faces, or avoid capturing them.

Even so, shooting handheld at night is always going to produce some blur, yet I am facinated by the effect of night on the atmosphere. I've never really done this kind of shooting before, and I have to push and tug, to learn the limits of the equipment.

Your post is much appreciated.

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Not sure why but as I came down to the third photo (near-empty street) I felt spooked. Too much horror movies, I guess...
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Not sure why but as I came down to the third photo (near-empty street) I felt spooked. Too much horror movies, I guess...
That is indeed what I intended with that image. Picture one, frivolity, picture two, "what the hell is going on?"

Picture three, "menace"

Picture four, glamour and mystery, and picture five, the "twilight zone"

I have a long way to go before the titles match the shot...

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Chato,
Street shooting is one of the most difficult types of photography there is, IMO. 90% of what I shoot is street and certainly I don't have a grasp on it...But the one thing thing that stands out the most to me, is that your too far away from the action. You need to get up close and personal. Try and catch the faces with some context...Keep shooting, I have enjoyed your night scenes.
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But the one thing thing that stands out the most to me, is that your too far away from the action. You need to get up close and personal. Try and catch the faces with some context...Keep shooting, I have enjoyed your night scenes.
Thanks for the remarks. I tend to do this in the daytime. Close-ups at night present a problem, although now that I've gone completely manual, less so.

I'll give it a shot, no pun intended...

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