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peripatetic · Jan 20, 2006, 9:49 AM

OK, so I quite like the colours and I got the focus where I wanted, which is to say the eyes of both birds are sharp. The DOF is very shallow but I wanted that.

The real question is how to crop this.

This is how it came from the camera, and I framed it this way through the viewfinder.

But would you crop it after the event? Is there any crop that improves the composition?

I've tried a few and I can find nothing that strikes me as any better than it is now.

How would you crop it, if at all?

Mugmar · Jan 20, 2006, 9:54 AM

I think it looks great as is.

You could take a little off the top and right hand side, but I thinkd that would make the shot to crowded.

Mugmar

peripatetic · Jan 20, 2006, 9:56 AM

Here's something a bit more radical.

The colours are nice, and I think there is some very interesting geometric symmetry in this crop.

But it seems a bit weird and slightly creepy.

klfatcj · Jan 20, 2006, 10:02 AM

I like the colours and the birds's poses. The background is great. It really sets off the colours, no distractions, yet some subtle gradations in tone make it pleasing to the eye. I don't know that this crop improves the shot, but just as Mugmar suggests, wonder if I'd crop a bit. With so much background, it feels as if the camera moved and cut off a bit more of the bodies than you wanted. Cropping some off the top makes it seem a bit more intentional.

Kevin

klfatcj · Jan 20, 2006, 10:04 AM

Just saw the more radical crop. That would look great on a wall. Enough reality to know what you are looking at, but an abstract feel.

Kevin

VAtechtigger · Jan 20, 2006, 10:29 AM

The more radical crop is very cool looking but I think the shallow DOF makes doesnt work with it, as the OOF area in now center stage. It is in context in the original crop and work with that fine.

Hards80 · Jan 20, 2006, 1:38 PM

craig, i really love this shot.. great moment, great exposure and correct DOF... the original is the best posted so far.. here is a slightly tigher view maintaining the aspect ratio somewhat...

julies517 · Jan 20, 2006, 4:24 PM

i like the how the original is off center, but i also like dustin's crop.....hmmm. i love the close up, but it would be amazing if you had more DoF. you captured the color and detail of these birds beautifully.

Aumma45 · Jan 20, 2006, 10:00 PM

It seems to me that each of these crops has its own merit and therefore trade-offs. Peri, great shot and thanks for sharing. Jaki.

shadowlies · Jan 21, 2006, 8:14 AM

Great shot. I thought I would use your pic to also try out a new technique in addition to the recrop. So here is my attempt.

Jan 20, 2006, 9:49 AM	#1
peripatetic Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,599	OK, so I quite like the colours and I got the focus where I wanted, which is to say the eyes of both birds are sharp. The DOF is very shallow but I wanted that. The real question is how to crop this. This is how it came from the camera, and I framed it this way through the viewfinder. But would you crop it after the event? Is there any crop that improves the composition? I've tried a few and I can find nothing that strikes me as any better than it is now. How would you crop it, if at all? Attached Images

Jan 20, 2006, 9:56 AM	#3
peripatetic Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,599	Here's something a bit more radical. The colours are nice, and I think there is some very interesting geometric symmetry in this crop. But it seems a bit weird and slightly creepy. Attached Images

Jan 20, 2006, 10:02 AM	#4
klfatcj Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 198	I like the colours and the birds's poses. The background is great. It really sets off the colours, no distractions, yet some subtle gradations in tone make it pleasing to the eye. I don't know that this crop improves the shot, but just as Mugmar suggests, wonder if I'd crop a bit. With so much background, it feels as if the camera moved and cut off a bit more of the bodies than you wanted. Cropping some off the top makes it seem a bit more intentional. Kevin Attached Images

Jan 20, 2006, 1:38 PM	#7
Hards80 Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 9,046	craig, i really love this shot.. great moment, great exposure and correct DOF... the original is the best posted so far.. here is a slightly tigher view maintaining the aspect ratio somewhat... Attached Images

Jan 21, 2006, 8:14 AM	#10
shadowlies Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 251	Great shot. I thought I would use your pic to also try out a new technique in addition to the recrop. So here is my attempt. Attached Images

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Jan 20, 2006, 9:54 AM	#2
Mugmar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,196	I think it looks great as is. You could take a little off the top and right hand side, but I thinkd that would make the shot to crowded. Mugmar

Jan 20, 2006, 10:04 AM	#5
klfatcj Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 198	Just saw the more radical crop. That would look great on a wall. Enough reality to know what you are looking at, but an abstract feel. Kevin

Jan 20, 2006, 10:29 AM	#6
VAtechtigger Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 570	The more radical crop is very cool looking but I think the shallow DOF makes doesnt work with it, as the OOF area in now center stage. It is in context in the original crop and work with that fine.

Jan 20, 2006, 4:24 PM	#8
julies517 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 851	i like the how the original is off center, but i also like dustin's crop.....hmmm. i love the close up, but it would be amazing if you had more DoF. you captured the color and detail of these birds beautifully.

Jan 20, 2006, 10:00 PM	#9
Aumma45 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,940	It seems to me that each of these crops has its own merit and therefore trade-offs. Peri, great shot and thanks for sharing. Jaki.

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