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Old Apr 24, 2012, 2:25 PM   #1
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Default Which one and why?

I'm more into landscapes but I'd like to venture into poirtraits now and then.

So these are one of the first and I'd like you to pick the better one and point me towards some improvements.

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Old Apr 24, 2012, 3:21 PM   #2
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I prefer the second one.
I think this is because of the shallower depth of field making the jeans & feet slightly out of focus.
Having said that, they are both excellent shots and I'm not 100% sure why I think number 2 is better.


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Old Apr 24, 2012, 3:47 PM   #3
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G'day Greg

you ask for feedback ...
1- there are multiple reasons why #2 is visually 'better' than #1
> the image as a whole seems to have a touch more contrast - #1 [on my screen] seems to be a tiny bit 'muddy';
> the face is slightly larger in the frame;
> the fingers are not bunched up like fists and competing [in size] with the face itself;
> the legs are tucked back into the body space, rather than pointing skywards and breaking up the line of the torso

2- lighting ~ talking image #2 here
> your lighting is beautiful & soft, angled down from top-left;
> the nose shadow does not break the line of the lips;
> there is good tonal separation between the face & torso to the background
.... so your lighting is excellent for this subject & in this location

Suggestions ~
> keep playing with the hands [they are so important, but can make/break the final image];
> keep the torso on 'your side' of the bed/couch and away from the wall, thus to ensure shadow separation takes place;
> experiment with the subject lying in various comfortable poses - tummy vs side etc. The body position "3/4-prone" is very popular for this sort of image

and please, keep showing us images of this very attractive young lady !!
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 3:48 PM   #4
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The eyes and face are more "alive" in #2...but at the cost of some blown highlights in the hair.
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Old Apr 24, 2012, 6:51 PM   #5
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I prefer the angle/positioning of no 2 creating the shallower depth of field.
Interestingly,I might have experimented more with the lighting and tried shooting without a flash.... the light wall on the left is slightly distracting to me...
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Old Apr 25, 2012, 12:13 PM   #6
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its 2 for me 1 is flat to me. in 2 the subject is lifted as there is more of a back light
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Old Apr 25, 2012, 7:26 PM   #7
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Number 2, the lighting is much better, brighter.
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Old Apr 26, 2012, 7:32 AM   #8
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I like everything about the first shot with the exception of the hands which I prefer in the second shot. The rolled up fingers causes a lot of kaos to the softness and beauty of her face. The second shot looks a little contrived and posed looking but not as busy around the face as the first.
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Old Apr 26, 2012, 10:54 AM   #9
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In both shots, the face is somewhat distorted by resting it on the hands. #2 is worse for this. DOF is better in #2, but at the expense of blown highlights, though the lighting does emphasize the face more. I think #1 would be very good cropped almost square, leaving everything above her waist, with maybe some contrast and saturation increased.

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Old Apr 28, 2012, 1:56 PM   #10
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The second one because of the hands, lighting and DOF.

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