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Old May 13, 2008, 12:59 PM   #21
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Here's my attempt - one of several versions of it using Photoshop Elements 2. I'm confused about exactly what the steps were, but they included striking a balance between red and blue, slightly reducing the saturation of the rocks and applying a very small amount of Unsharp Mask.
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Old May 14, 2008, 5:03 AM   #22
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I've been very busy No new photos except for our trip to India. Haven't had time to really work on them.
Oh, I know what you mean, my friend! It's just that this corner of Steve's can be tedious at times without somecheerful frequenters:-)

Btw, that you for the tip! I have just discovered some of your tasteful India captures released in the Travel Photos! Highly recommended


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Here's my attempt - one of several versions of it using Photoshop Elements 2. I'm confused about exactly what the steps were, but they included striking a balance between red and blue, slightly reducing the saturation of the rocks and applying a very small amount of Unsharp Mask.
Thank you for taking the time! The slight magenta tone observable inyour versionby the result ofan red/blue adjustment hasmade me feel I'vebeen looking atthe sceneryon the page of an expensivetravel book!Happyit's already become that famous:G

Btw, glad to see you around again! Missed your edits and kind comments : )
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Thanks Bahadir! :-) I have a lot more to share :G Just have to make time to work on them. Took a lot from the car as we were drive through India. Think I will call these photos not "Street Photography" but "Mobile Photography" :?
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nice shots you have there.

I was thinking of experimenting with some HDR shots and was wondering if there were any tutorials, or guides that you may know of to help one get started.

I have seen some of longside1's work and it is pretty amazing too!

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Thanks Bahadir! :-) I have a lot more to share :G Just have to make time to work on them. Took a lot from the car as we were drive through India. Think I will call these photos not "Street Photography" but "Mobile Photography" :?

Whatever you call it, from what I've seen; so far so good my friend

Please let me know if you've posted anyfurther India pictures somewhere else other than the Travel Photos section..

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nice shots you have there.

I was thinking of experimenting with some HDR shots and was wondering if there were any tutorials, or guides that you may know of to help one get started.

I have seen some of longside1's work and it is pretty amazing too!
Thank you for the kind feedback : )

You're right!Actually, Matt (a.k.a longside1) isseriously responsible for spreading us the zest of HDR :-)

As for tutorials, should you download the free version ofthe Photomatix, you'll findthe tutorial quite helpful and simple.IMO, most of thelearning stillrelies onthe good old trial and error attempt

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Hi Bahadir,

Here's my version of your jpg, edited with Sagelight.

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I don't get it. HDR improves this image in a minimal manner. Why bother when you can simply process the original RAW file? Heck, even working with the JPG you provided easily matches your HDR version. If I had the original I could do a lot better - If necessary using the three layer (or five layer) method in Photoshop.

I'm not trying to be offensive here. I mean the above remarks literally

And BTW, the reason my rocks are darker, is that I like the look of the shadows.





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I don't get it. HDR improves this image in a minimal manner. Why bother when you can simply process the original RAW file? Heck, even working with the JPG you provided easily matches your HDR version.
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A breath of fresh air. I can't agree more. I can't see how HDR benefits any image I've seen, compared to modifying a single RAW, as long as it doesn't have blown out highlights.

I put the RAW vs HDR question quite innocently on a RAW flickr forum
http://www.flickr.com/groups/hdr/dis...57623436597822
It was like questioning religious beliefs. What an emotional response ! ... but without any real answers.

I'm sure there are special circumstances with images having extreme dynamic ranges where HDR might benefit but I haven't seen any. Most of the HDR "look" is the just halos, high contrast and high saturation.

If anyone can give an example where HDR gives better results than an edited RAW, I'd be most interested in seeing it.
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Dave,
A breath of fresh air. I can't agree more. I can't see how HDR benefits any image I've seen, compared to modifying a single RAW, as long as it doesn't have blown out highlights.

I put the RAW vs HDR question quite innocently on a RAW flickr forum
http://www.flickr.com/groups/hdr/dis...57623436597822
It was like questioning religious beliefs. What an emotional response ! ... but without any real answers.
This is something I too have observed. HDR seems to be mana from heaven...

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I'm sure there are special circumstances with images having extreme dynamic ranges where HDR might benefit but I haven't seen any. Most of the HDR "look" is the just halos, high contrast and high saturation.

If anyone can give an example where HDR gives better results than an edited RAW, I'd be most interested in seeing it.
Here I do not completely agree. HDR, as a technique does have legitimate value. Some on this very board have effectively demontrated this to me. Check out the images of Mountain Girl, and some of the images of VCarpio and others. They do indeed use various HDR programs in a way that enhances the image.

Interestingly enough I have discovered that most of the things that specialised HDR programs do, can be done faster and more efficiently using the layers menu of Photoshop. Check this thread:

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/hd...atrix-hdr.html

My biggest beef against this celebration of HDR is the effect on newcomers to photography who are being defacto told, that you CAN'T capture a broad dynamic range without using some HDR program. If newcomers believe this then they are setting back their ability to acquire photographic skills.

Here's an image that is simply the result of normal processing in Photoshop (or any other program) and until someone can match this kind of shot, they should stay away from the crutch of HDR...



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