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Old Apr 2, 2010, 12:31 PM   #1
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I really thought the kind of black found in digitalpimp's photos here was only possible on OLED screens. So now I have a new bar to reach. You can say this is my first shot at it. Please feel free to judge. Thank you for looking!

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Old Apr 2, 2010, 12:34 PM   #2
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Wow, how did you do this. Neat photo!
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 12:49 PM   #3
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HDR image really does a number on leaves. I cant focus my eyes on them. Its 3 bracket shots isnt it? Probably better if you'd done one good Raw file. Then the taxi would be sharp.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 1:44 PM   #4
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I like it. In my humble opinion I think the contrast setting is a little to high...
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 2:18 PM   #5
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... I cant focus my eyes on them...
I think this is a clear example of over-sharpening. Too much sharpening on foilage and indeed even bare twigs against a blue sky, will make your eyes dance the jitterbug....!



But, I like the dense colors in the pic. There is something bold over this picture...
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 2:32 PM   #6
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I really like the overall look of this shot.... how did you achieve that special look? But I have to agree with Walter and the others - you sharpened a bit to much... foliage is always a problem...

And the taxi... I don't know... but to avoid that movement you have to work with a RAW file, don't know if you want to do that
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And the taxi... I don't know... but to avoid that movement you have to work with a RAW file, don't know if you want to do that
Yes, the taxi looks like a blur of 3 images, looking at the red spots.
Overall its over unsharpened or over local contrasted and over saturated.
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VV the Auto show starts today and runs till next sunday if you are looking for something different to shoot.
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I'm sorta waiting for Rodger Rabbit to pop upon the scene, it has a cartoonish look about it.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 10:59 PM   #10
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Thank you, all, for taking the time to comment.

Bynx, I ordered a 233X Compactflash memory from Amazon some time ago and it finally shipped. I have other reasons (besides stubborness ) for not not shooting raw but we'll see if a faster memory would finally change my habit.

I used Photomatix and think it actually works better with leaves and branches compared to DPHDR. I have my own thoughts about edits I make but don't state them here so as not to "lead" (or mislead) potential critics. The leaves looking somewhat not right is one of them.

I agree about over-sharpening. I have reasons for oversharpening my edits one of which is for 1680x1050 and 1920x1080 resolutions which I use for my wallpapers, I think they look fine, but not for 1024x681 which I upload here. I'll try to lower my sharpening in the future.

(Another reason is just personal preference which I admit is off at times. I slide the sharpen control back and forth and can't get my heart to commit to the less sharpened version once I see the higher sharpened one. If anyone actually likes the "oversharpened" versions, I'd appreciate knowing, too, so at least I know I'm not alone.)

Regarding the taxi, since no one mentioned this I think another option would be to wait for traffic to clear. This is what I was doing while aiming this shot but then thought the speeding taxi might add interest so I pulled the trigger (in a manner of speaking...).

I think I carried my habit of over-saturating, over-contrasting, over-sharpening, etc. from my days of learning desktop publishing some 20+ years ago. During post-processing a pic, what basically happens is I would slide the controls until I see what to me looks good and maybe I should stop right there. But instead I slide the controls some more just to see what I might be missing. When that happens my aesthetic recognition (assuming I had any) goes out of whack and so I end up over-processing. I'll have to learn to step away or look out the window then look again to see if my last change actually made improvements.

In any case, I tried to follow everything you all said and re-did my edit. For Ned and maggo85, I also explain the steps I took. I hope they're somewhat clear. However, they are by no means textbook stuff. If it isn't yet obvious by now, I'm just a hack .

#2. Original Photomatix "painterly" output.


#3. "Motion blur" used on taxi and horizon leveled. I actually used motion blur on the original pic. This time, I increased the blur.


#4. Adjust lighting, set "Levels" to about 0.40 (from 1.00) to increase contrast. My aim is achieve contrast similar to digitalpimp's pics.


#5. Used PSE7's auto-sharpen. I don't normally use "auto" functions -- I think I got the habit from my IT experience where we install software always using "custom" settings to see exactly what is being done. But this time I think PSE7's auto-sharpen actually works fine if not great.


#6. Where I started getting "creative" in hopes of imitating photoimp's style -- basically darkened the area around the bright street scene framed by the trees. I used the elliptical selection tool and selected a large area under the trees (including some of the trees) then feathered the selection to 50 and lowered "Levels" under "Adjust Lighting" (same process as in #4 above).
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