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Old Nov 4, 2010, 9:23 AM   #11
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Wow... a one out of ten! Why did you score it so low?
I didn't. "+1" is a standard internet way of saying, "me, too." This particular board doesn't let you do that -- you need four characters in your remark. Go figure.

Anyway, you didn't do "some" sharpening on that photo, you sharpened the life out of it. That is what I was responding to. If it had been left reasonably unprocessed, the photo would probably have been outstanding.
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Old Nov 4, 2010, 11:04 AM   #12
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I didn't. "+1" is a standard internet way of saying, "me, too." This particular board doesn't let you do that -- you need four characters in your remark. Go figure.

Anyway, you didn't do "some" sharpening on that photo, you sharpened the life out of it. That is what I was responding to. If it had been left reasonably unprocessed, the photo would probably have been outstanding.
Nope... didn't sharpen much at all...
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Old Nov 4, 2010, 10:28 PM   #13
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to me, it is way over saturated, which makes it look fake. Also that piece of wood in the lower right really distracted me, and caught my eye.
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The shot is a really great capture. The backlighting is really what makes the photo stand out. It also makes it look a bit overprocessed, and the halos around the feathers give it a sense that the bird was pasted in over the b/g. If you shot this in Raw, it would be worth a shot to lighten the b/g somewhat, to reduce the extreme contrast. There seems to be quite a bit of noise in the photo, which is understandable for the ISO that was used.

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I'll try explaining again... the background was dark as it was the tree bush in heavy shade. The Scrub Jay had the sun directly behind it and why the wings were light... thus the extreme contrast. I'll say it again that I didn't use much sharping or contrast.
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we didn't say you did, lol. We believe you.. really. Even though that is a real picture with very little PP, it still "looks" fake to me.
it's criticism. you posted your photo in the critique section of the forums. obviously you were hoping for a different reaction from everybody?
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we didn't say you did, lol. We believe you.. really. Even though that is a real picture with very little PP, it still "looks" fake to me.
it's criticism. you posted your photo in the critique section of the forums. obviously you were hoping for a different reaction from everybody?
Well, I don't appreciate it being called "fake" or otherwise when it isn't.
Lighting is everything and that is what this was.
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I tend not to dwell as much on the technical plus or minus points of a photo as much as
the emotional impact...

For me this shot is very dynamic with a lot of "Wow" factor... I could honestly say that,
technicaly perfect or not, I'd be proud of myself if it was mine...

I do not however have a clue how the POTD photo's are chosen or judged...
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Well, I don't appreciate it being called "fake" or otherwise when it isn't.
OK, fine. It's a real photo of a plastic bird. What's the point of this?
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On a quick look like most of us do here the original does look overprocessed with too much sharpening. Thats because of the lighting in this case has created that look. On closer observation I can see its the lighting through the birds wings. When I first saw this shot I said WOW. I still say it. I sit about 3 feet from my birdfeeder every day. I feed the suckers Planters fresh roasted peanuts in the shell. My camera is close by and Ive yet to get a shot like this. The closest Ive come is a similar shot of a sparrow. But not nearly as dramatic. This is a one in a thousand shot and worthy of POTD. But then Im not a judge and who knows what is rattling around between the ears of those guys. Im still waiting to get POTD on a shot I entered last year. Im an optimist. hahahahaha
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