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Old Nov 5, 2010, 11:35 AM   #21
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I'll try explaining again... the background was dark as it was the tree bush in heavy shade. The Scrub Jay had the sun directly behind it and why the wings were light... thus the extreme contrast. I'll say it again that I didn't use much sharping or contrast.
I pretty much got that from looking at the photo. I also was able to observe the blown highlights on the bird's head, and the noise. The Exif also tells me it has been saved from photoshop, but doesn't say if it was just resized from the original, cropped, or heavily processed. All any of us can judge from is what we see of a picture resized to fit the screen.

If it is positive feedback you are looking for, I'll say " WOW, what an amazing shot!" I'm impressed. This is the critiques section, though, and there are ways it could be better. Most people post here to get others' ideas on that. In this case of a rare capture, my thoughts are that cloning out the wooden (perch or birdhouse?) in the foreground would help, as would some noise reduction and tone mapping to lighten the dark b/g.

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Old Nov 5, 2010, 11:42 AM   #22
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OK, fine. It's a real photo of a plastic bird. What's the point of this?
The point is your a jerk and people like Bynx & VTphotog aren't.
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I pretty much got that from looking at the photo. I also was able to observe the blown highlights on the bird's head, and the noise. The Exif also tells me it has been saved from photoshop, but doesn't say if it was just resized from the original, cropped, or heavily processed. All any of us can judge from is what we see of a picture resized to fit the screen.

If it is positive feedback you are looking for, I'll say " WOW, what an amazing shot!" I'm impressed. This is the critiques section, though, and there are ways it could be better. Most people post here to get others' ideas on that. In this case of a rare capture, my thoughts are that cloning out the wooden (perch or birdhouse?) in the foreground would help, as would some noise reduction and tone mapping to lighten the dark b/g.

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Now your kind of critique is what I'm looking for, not the put down as a couple were.

I was wondering about cloning out the top of the bird house. The picture is cropped about 50% with some photoshoping.

OK, due to several that called this a "fake" or "pasted-in" I included the original, just resized to fit here.
As you can see the background is dark because of the tree/bush and the Scrub Jay is back-lite from the sun directly behind it.
I did crop about 50%, some sharpening and a little highlighting to bring out the right side of birds face.
I re-sampled to fit 8x10.



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I have to say I like the original better, as it gives more context to judge the size of the bird, and the foreground items provide better balance of light. The only foreground element I would remove, is the blade of grass - the bright green in the midst of the weathered wood is a bit distracting.

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i actually prefer the looser crop of the original too. i like to see where the bird is coming in for a landing, and i like that he is flying into the frame. for me that makes a really nice shot. you could maybe shave a little off each side, but i would keep the context the same.
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i actually prefer the looser crop of the original too. i like to see where the bird is coming in for a landing, and i like that he is flying into the frame. for me that makes a really nice shot. you could maybe shave a little off each side, but i would keep the context the same.
How about this one then?

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This last pic is the winner for me. Gives better story to what the Jay is doing. It is complete. And as you can see, compared to my shot, yours is very impressive.
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Jack, I am a fan of the last one also, It is worth your entering in the POTD, in my opinion. I say give that last one a shot, even if by some quirk is is not picked, it will give them something brilliant to look at!
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I was planning on giving a bit more criticism to the OP, but I am worried that he might call me a jerk if I don't tell him his photo is beautiful.
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I was planning on giving a bit more criticism to the OP, but I am worried that he might call me a jerk if I don't tell him his photo is beautiful.
Your comment says it all.
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