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Old Oct 15, 2015, 7:24 PM   #1
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Can't quite decide which cropping looks better. I was shooting the dawn sky when a flight of Canada Geese landed nearby. Of course those shots were widely out of focus. After waiting a bit only one remained in the view and it turned away from me as if it was looking at the sunrise as well. So here is the shot, cropped more for wide view and secondly cropped square. What do you think?
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Old Oct 15, 2015, 10:04 PM   #2
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I vote for #1. it gives a better view of the subject, the sunset. The second crop shows the goose as the main subject, and is too square. Just my opinion. But I love sunrise/sunset shots.
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There are two subjects: the Sun and the Goose.

#1 is overly wide, which doesn't really add anything to the composition.

#2 narrows the attention to the 2 subjects.

I prefer #2.

In fact, I think it might have been helped with a portrait orientation to get more of the sky rather than the horizon, and/or getting a lower perspective so the goose would have been a little closer to the horizon.
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Old Oct 16, 2015, 8:18 PM   #4
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Its a nice sunset but the overall photo is empty and I dont see how cropping it will improve it any. With a seascape shot like this, cropping it to a square format doesnt do it at all for me. Unless there is a specific purpose for the shape I dont see it working. If the bird was a little higher you could crop it like this. But I dont see much improvement if any.
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The contrails are very distracting.
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Thanks for the comments. It is a shot that I had a hard time with as to whether I liked it or not. Could it have been improved by getting down lower, possibly, though that would take away from the sky reflections on the water. Plus there was about ten feet of muck at the water's edge that I did not feel like tramping through. Ultimately, did the goose add anything to the shot of the dawn sky? I'm going to go with my initial thought and say not really. Chalk this one down to the learning curve.
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i prefer what Bynx did, it gives a feeling of vastness to the ocean
theres not many instances where square works i don't think
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I like Bynx' effort of moving the goose closer to the horizon, so I think a lower vantage point would have helped. But I still think that more sky would help more so that more horizon, and could possibly have lessened the distraction of the contrails. (I say "possibly" since we don't know what the additional sky looked like, because it wasn't in the shot.)

The Rule of Thirds would generally put the major subject(s) at the 1/3 or 2/3 position, and neither yours nor Bynx' versions does that for either the horizon or the goose.
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#1. Sunset portrait crops work sometimes when the reflection is the subject.

The 3 faint contrails add interest to the sky, but the big one is a strong line leading the eye out of frame.

The sunset is the subject. The goose is an example of a 'phony subject', a composition element that adds one or more of life, movement (actual or implied), context, scale. Here it works as such. In my minds eye it would work better if it was higher in frame, placing its bottom where its top currently is.
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