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Old Dec 6, 2016, 6:52 PM   #1
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I love my Olympus E-3. It takes great portrait and wildlife photos. But this photo just didn't come out right. Is it my settings or the lens? [IMG]PC040918 by Tom, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Old Dec 6, 2016, 7:54 PM   #2
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Its very grainy which is the only complaint I have. Its a good overall exposure so the proportions of ISO, Fstop and Shutter Speed were right aided by the flash. Everything is in focus so the Fstop was right. F8, ISO 800, 1/60 sec using flash and 14mm lens. ID say it was just too dark for the camera to handle well as I cant see fault with your settings or the lens. I didnt think ISO 800 was very much but I guess your camera cant handle it without a lot of noise.

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Old Dec 7, 2016, 4:08 PM   #3
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G'day Tom

I'd go with Bynx as well, and add -
While there's beaut brightness to the balloons, there's no / very little sign of 'flash shadow' around the lower half of the woman on the left

It may be that the auto-exposure for the flash has metered from the bright balloons, and reduced the flash light accordingly. ie. you may only have received 50% of flash output, thus causing underexposure in those darker regions of the image

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Thanks. I should have tried to bounce the flash for this one probably.
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An ISO setting 800, as Bynx mentioned, is probably the culprit here. The E-3 is an older camera and while still formidable, it just can't handle the higher ISO settings like the newer cameras can. Keep it at or below 400 and you should do just fine.
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The main issue to me in this image is the noise which is quite pronounced even for ISO 800. Either your camera is out of calibration (of sorts) or that's what your camera does at ISO 800. Even without a flash, I experience this level of noise only at ISO settings of greater than 3200 on a DSLR. On my Canon S90 (Point & Shoot), anything over ISO 400 generates noise like this, but it is within the performance parameters for that camera (small sensor, etc).

Try Gary's advice and see if there's improvement to the image quality.

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Another one from the baby shower. This is at 800 iso too, but doesn't seem to have as much noise[IMG]PC040904 by Tom, on Flickr[/IMG]
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I dropped the iso to 500 on this one.[IMG]PC040897 by Tom, on Flickr[/IMG]
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I dont understand why there is talk of the flash being a problem. Your first and last image are great in every way except for the noise in the dark portions of the images. Its not the flash since its lighting the whole room nicely in the images. No overexposed parts. The balloons dont really count because they are light pink right in front of the flash. The waitress walking in the back is exposed right. Also your 1/60 shutter speed captured the outside nicely as well as the inside room. Your ISO 800 for your camera is too much and you should try to not go above ISO 400. After you take your shots run them through a noise reducer. All the main subjects faces are great. No noise and exposed properly. If I had to guess Id say its all to do with the sensor of your camera. If it bothers you then its time to upgrade. I ran your image through Topaz Noise Adjust. By the way there are 3 settings for Noise Reduction on your camera. They are more noticeable from ISO 800 up. Did you use the best setting?
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Your Exif data shows a setting I am unfamiliar with, the gain setting:
  • Scene Capture Type - Standard
  • Gain Control - High gain up
  • Contrast - Normal
  • Saturation - High
  • Sharpness - Hard
Is the gain control a way to increase the shadow exposure, in a pseudo HDR type of way? If so, it means the gain in the shadow areas, set to high, is going to make the effective ISO for shadows considerably higher than for mid range and highlights. This would likely result in the ISO for the shadows being in the range of 3200 instead of the 800 for the rest of the shot.
Not using an Oly, I am not really sure, though.
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