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Old Oct 10, 2005, 10:13 AM   #1
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The loyal supporter, last to leave

The lonely supporter, here to grieve

Oh disappointment........Scotland 0 Belarus 1

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Old Oct 10, 2005, 2:53 PM   #2
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England 1 - Austria 0... YAY!

How many of our American friends support "football" in wonder?
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Old Oct 10, 2005, 3:15 PM   #3
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But at least the Scottish Fans are a credit to their nation, or is at least my experience over the years.

Ours a simply an embarrassment, of which I dread being around come summer next year in Germany.

Anyway are you here to shout WWHHHAAAYYY HHHAAAYYYY for Englandor to critique my photo,..Sparky ... ?

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Old Oct 10, 2005, 3:19 PM   #4
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yeah fair play... i was sad for the scots on this one...

i do like the photo - the shape of the bar makes this one an interesting shot! Cool looking place..!
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Old Oct 10, 2005, 4:02 PM   #5
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I'm assuming a 2 or 3 shot panorama. Nicely done, as was your barbershop pano.
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Old Oct 10, 2005, 8:50 PM   #6
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you are putting together quite a portfolio of these pano format pj style shots.. i simply love these shots.. this one is nearly as strong as the barbershop one.. the expression is perfect and the setting is great.. the fact that he is the only person is a great element for this shot..

simply wonderful.. my commendations for your past2 efforts..

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Old Oct 11, 2005, 5:38 AM   #7
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Thanks Hards,

Walter,

If I remember correctly this is 6 shots. In most of these shots I am fairly close requiring a wide-ish angle lens- 24mm, however that still wont fit everythingI want in 3 shots top to bottom if you shot with the camera in landscape. I understand in this aspect you can cut down on the number of shots to stitch (always good), but you will get a long thin pano with more distortion that probably wont stitch well anyway. I prefer to shoot in portrait and have more shots with healthy overlaps. This produces much less distortion and looks way better, mimicking an ultra wide lens, but without the distortion. That is why a lot of people are thinking these are only 2 or 3 shots. In actual fact you could never achieve these using an ultra wideon 2 or three shot stitch, I've tried - doesn't work well at all. The heavy distortion at the edges makes it almost impossible to stitch. Besides I think that this aspect ratio is better than too long and thin a pano. Its much easier to frame in standard frames with a 2/3 to 1/3 mount ration bottom to top which comes out looking rather good. Plus this ratio is easier on the eyes. The shots I am going for are at most 90 or 100 degrees. I am in essence not tiring to produce a panoramic photograph, but in actual fact a super wide aspect without distortion. These views are wider than most 14mm lenses but with only as much distortion as a 24. I realise that long straight lines in some occasions are getting bent due to the stitch, but its acceptable and not altogether horrible. But mainly there is no distortion in the detail and human subjects.

Anyway thats just between you and me..... don't tell anyone
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This is a great shot. The guy's expression is priceless. Well done. You really are good at these panoramas.:-)
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Old Oct 11, 2005, 2:03 PM   #9
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Thanks all for contributing.

Thats all for a bit.... post more in a few weeks when i get back from work..



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