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Old Apr 21, 2006, 8:54 AM   #51
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Ken,

One thing I haven't yet understood in these proceedings is where and when 'freedom of choice' dropped out of the equation. There are many threads I simply skip over for a variety of reasons. If someone doesn't like the style or workor character of a particular poster(s), there is no obligation to comment or participate in that thread - simply move on.

I've taken the trouble to look back over the history of this forum and it makes for some interesting reading. Changed it most certainly has, but not just of late - so your comments about itbeing in a state of constant fluxare correct from what I can make out. There seems to have been some rather colourful goings on and violent clashes in the past that makethe morerecent ones seem tame by comparison. So I'm sorry, I don't buy the 'fings ain't wot they used to be' line that ispresently being punted around.
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Old Apr 21, 2006, 9:04 AM   #52
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Hey Syd,

All of this from a punnet of strawberries...! I am suprised we haven't had moderator input on this thread yet...

p.s. Did you ever get the ISoS interweb-site running??

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Old Apr 21, 2006, 9:14 AM   #53
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One thing I haven't yet understood in these proceedings is where and when 'freedom of choice' dropped out of the equation. There are many threads I simply skip over for a variety of reasons. If someone doesn't like the style or workor character of a particular poster(s), there is no obligation to comment or participate in that thread - simply move on.

I've taken the trouble to look back over the history of this forum and it makes for some interesting reading. Changed it most certainly has, but not just of late - so your comments about itbeing in a state of constant fluxare correct from what I can make out. There seems to have been some rather colourful goings on and violent clashes in the past that makethe morerecent ones seem tame by comparison. So I'm sorry, I don't buy the 'fings ain't wot they used to be' line that ispresently being punted around.
Amen. There is tons of room for topics and sorting out opinions is indeed what Critiques is all about. (so the thread should be allowed to continue til it runs out of steam) Exactly the point...freedom to chose...live and let live. The most vigorous debate here has all been about which opinion (a lot like the world's religions) is the wisest, most astute, enlightened...etc. (We won't really know til we bring back the rack and other midevil truth gathering implements)

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Old Apr 21, 2006, 9:26 AM   #54
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OK guys and gals.

I don't read through all of the posts (too many of them to keep up with).

But, let's keep personal comments out of posts (and that goes for other forums, too).

In this forum, we also have some guidelines that you're expected to adhere to.

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...mp;forum_id=90

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Please be aware of the forum title "Critiques and Techniques". Therefore, if you post an image here you are effectively requesting others to critique the image.

By definition, a Critique is:
A. A critical review or commentary, especially one dealing with works of art or literature.
B. A critical discussion of a specified topic.
C. The art of criticism.

If you do not want your image to be open to critical comments, do not post it here!


On to the guidelines...

1. Be Nice
No matter how bad you think something posted actually is, do not flame or deride the author. Many here are interested in improving their style and mechanics, and are far from perfect. If you encounter a post for which you can offer constructive advice, do critique.

2. Be Honest
If you do not like an image posted, say so. But also remember to say why you do not like the image, and if you can, explain how you think it might be improved.

3. Be Constructive
Critiques should always be constructive, i.e., giving your ideas at how you think things could be improved. If you cannot give a constructive critique, please refrain from posting negative comments. If you like an image, say so & say why you liked it.

4. Be Concise
Please post only one image per thread...this will allow each image to be judged on it's own merits and keeps the thread on topic. A critique which picks apart every detail of the image posted had better be worth the time reading it.

5. Be Respectful
You may find the occasional "something bothers me about the mouth" (or similar) notice in a post. If you encounter it, please respect it and focus your critique on that particular part of the image. Also, please refrain from "hijacking" threads by including your own images for critique...if you are unsure, start a new thread.

6. Keep Netiquette In Mind
All posts on Steves Forums are expected to be civil. If you can't behave in an adult manner, perhaps you should not post at all.

7. Be Considerate
Even the worst posts deserve some sort of feedback. This Forum is for those that want to improve their skills. In order to do so, they need good, constructive critiques. There are a lot of people here who have different levels of skills and different skills altogether. Some may choose to shoot in a style that is purly edited by the camera, while others may be Photoshop Gurus...keep your mind open or don't post.

8. Be Patient
When you post an image, don't expect instant feedback. We are an International group & some people are asleep (or at work) when you hit the send button. Give people a chance to think about their ideas before they respond.

9. Be Forgiving
Many a post is made hastily (so that boss does not see, or spouse does not see, or author does not fall asleep or whatever). Be forgiving of obvious mistakes. There are many people here who are not native speakers of English. Please respect that they are doing their best to express themselves fluently. Be aware that a certain amount of good-natured gigging is likely to happen. Do not take puns personally.
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Amen
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Old Apr 21, 2006, 9:43 AM   #56
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But, let's keep personal comments out of posts (and that goes for other forums, too).

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No matter how bad you think something posted actually is, do not flame or deride the author.
Thanks for taking the time JimC. I think the two lines above say it all.
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Agreed
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OK guys and gals.

I don't read through all of the posts (too many of them to keep up with).

But, let's keep personal comments out of posts (and that goes for other forums, too).

In this forum, we also have some guidelines that you're expected to adhere to.

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...mp;forum_id=90

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Please be aware of the forum title "Critiques and Techniques". Therefore, if you post an image here you are effectively requesting others to critique the image.

By definition, a Critique is:
A. A critical review or commentary, especially one dealing with works of art or literature.
B. A critical discussion of a specified topic.
C. The art of criticism.

If you do not want your image to be open to critical comments, do not post it here!


On to the guidelines...

1. Be Nice
No matter how bad you think something posted actually is, do not flame or deride the author. Many here are interested in improving their style and mechanics, and are far from perfect. If you encounter a post for which you can offer constructive advice, do critique.

2. Be Honest
If you do not like an image posted, say so. But also remember to say why you do not like the image, and if you can, explain how you think it might be improved.

3. Be Constructive
Critiques should always be constructive, i.e., giving your ideas at how you think things could be improved. If you cannot give a constructive critique, please refrain from posting negative comments. If you like an image, say so & say why you liked it.

4. Be Concise
Please post only one image per thread...this will allow each image to be judged on it's own merits and keeps the thread on topic. A critique which picks apart every detail of the image posted had better be worth the time reading it.

5. Be Respectful
You may find the occasional "something bothers me about the mouth" (or similar) notice in a post. If you encounter it, please respect it and focus your critique on that particular part of the image. Also, please refrain from "hijacking" threads by including your own images for critique...if you are unsure, start a new thread.

6. Keep Netiquette In Mind
All posts on Steves Forums are expected to be civil. If you can't behave in an adult manner, perhaps you should not post at all.

7. Be Considerate
Even the worst posts deserve some sort of feedback. This Forum is for those that want to improve their skills. In order to do so, they need good, constructive critiques. There are a lot of people here who have different levels of skills and different skills altogether. Some may choose to shoot in a style that is purly edited by the camera, while others may be Photoshop Gurus...keep your mind open or don't post.

8. Be Patient
When you post an image, don't expect instant feedback. We are an International group & some people are asleep (or at work) when you hit the send button. Give people a chance to think about their ideas before they respond.

9. Be Forgiving
Many a post is made hastily (so that boss does not see, or spouse does not see, or author does not fall asleep or whatever). Be forgiving of obvious mistakes. There are many people here who are not native speakers of English. Please respect that they are doing their best to express themselves fluently. Be aware that a certain amount of good-natured gigging is likely to happen. Do not take puns personally.

Thank you JimC, but what about the strawberries? :-)


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Old Apr 21, 2006, 11:41 AM   #59
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I just want to be certain that the Strawberries Shot is in fact your own work, before I post myvalued opinion.Anyway of proving it and for that matter, are you really the Syd we've all come to know and love? :G
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Well sureI have a lot to learn too Syd.

Look forward to your future photographs.

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I hope we can put all this behind us now and move on.

Incidently, do you like photographs of potatoes? I'm working on this great new series of shots of the great British potato. I have loadsa shots of this one potato . . .


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