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Old May 10, 2007, 7:56 PM   #1
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Long time Steve reader, first time poster.

I feel like I've tried almost everything. I've found tutorials recommending to convert to WMV or FLV files. The video looks fine on my PC, but once I upload to YouTube, they look terrible. There are good quality videos on YouTube so I know its possible.

Here are my samples on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=CAGcast\

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Here is a raw sample from the CG65 at highest quality:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/podcast/SANY0017.MP4


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Old May 10, 2007, 10:55 PM   #2
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Hmmm, strange thata direct MP4 upload causesa few grey frames at the beginning? I hadn't attempted a CG65 Youtube upload yet, just assumedWEB-SHQwould be ideal.Acccording to Youtube they recommend 320x240 Xvid with MP3 audio. I specifically converted to thatformat and resolution when I uploaded a couple of videos (Dilana and Marty) last year (C6). I don't know if helps, 320x240 AVC+AAC should still be better, but generally speaking Youtube is low quality, no? I think the videos that look the best on Youtubehave very little movement, like a fixed camera, which helps improve the picture quality a lot on very low-bit rate encoded video (which is what Youtube is).
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Thanks for your response.

I tried Xvid and it doesn't seem any better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTIIq_h_UDQ

Its very strange that your videos seem to have much less video noise than mine.
Any other suggestions?
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Old May 11, 2007, 1:02 AM   #4
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Sorry, Idon't know Youtube that well. PerhapsYoutube doesn't want to spend a lot of time (processing power) on conversion so we need to provide videoat Youtube resolution (320x240)and reasonable bit-rate (while retaininggood quality). But I still think the main problem is that Youtube is low bit-rate and the more a scene (more of the image) moves the more blocky it will be on Youtube. I bet if you recorded a fixed cam scene with little movement, like someone just talking,it would then look better on Youtube.

Funny thing isby looking at your post I saw that someone else posted a bit of my wasp sample on Youtube. According to the guy's web site he did MP4 -> WMV -> Youtube.
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Old May 11, 2007, 5:32 AM   #5
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Man, this is very frustrating.
Maybe its just not going to get better than this with this camera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqeoeqc9Ak

If anyone wants to give it a try, here is a 7MB sample:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/podcast/SANY0004.mp4
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CheapyD wrote:
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[...]Maybe its just not going to get better than this with this camera:[...]
Well it's Youtube (= very low bit-rate streaming), not the camera. Again... full scene movement = bad quality on Youtube.
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Old May 11, 2007, 11:55 AM   #7
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I think you can try www.blip.tv. It has better resolution than youtube. It allows you to use thesource file for streaming or you can choose to use the default flash player.

Also anyone tried converting the CG65 footage to divx and put on stage6.divx.com? I am planning to buyCG65 soon. Therefore, I would like to know that answer.
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IMO, uploading to youtube etc. is good if you only want to show the content of your video (eg. sharing vacation clips with family). However, if you are uploading samples at the request of other potential buyers of the camera/ camcorder, I would rather upload the unaltered video file, straight from the camera/ camcroder itself, and use a file uploading site like megaupload. This way the original video quality is preserved, and other people can also see how the video plays on their own computer and media player (eg. H.264 may be heavy on CPU in slower computers, or on boggy players like QT). Plus, you don't need to do any conversion to other formats for uploading. I know some of these videos are HUGE (I only have cable Lite at home, better than dialup but still I learn to be patient when downloading!), but short clips of about ten seconds may suffice depending on what you want to demonstrate.
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Yes I agree, for demonstrating a camcorder, a direct download of the original source file is the only choice. It is pretty pointless really, trying to show off a high definition camera on youtube :lol:
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I don't profess to be an expert at the best settings forYouTube, but I did find this informative link:

http://www.squidoo.com/youtuberight/


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